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Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by latchkey »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #29
latchkey wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the mentioned apps, Bartender, was sold to a third party [0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40584606 I think they've cleaned it up since then [1], but in the age of supply chain attacks, very concerning. Personally, even as a paying user of Bartender, I moved to the open source solution, at least I can watch the github for changes. [1] https://www.macbartender.com/b5blog/Lets-Try-This-Again/

The other mentioned app, Ice, is unmaintained and no longer works on Tahoe. There's a maintained fork called Thaw.

Thanks, I'll check out Thaw. I've been using Ice without problems:

https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice/releases/tag/0.11.13-dev....

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by simonh »

paxys wrote: post #21
javawizard wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know software quality has been going down in recent versions of macOS Note that this particular problem has existed for well over a decade. It's atrocious, but let's not pretend it's anything new.

The macbook notch has existed for a decade?

Menu bar icons overflowing. The notch just makes it a problem quicker, and in an exciting new way.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by nightski »

jedberg wrote: post #20

This seems like a good place to ask: What is the current state of the art for connecting back to my home network while remote? I want: access to my home server ability to stream US TV when abroad (by exiting from my home network) ability to make it easy for others with non-tech backgrounds to connect with their devices (parents, kids, etc) ability to have remote linux servers connect automatically on boot. This one i…

I just use WireGuard to connect my local network. I see no point in throwing a middleman into the mix.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by badc0ffee »

re wrote: post #28
gh02t wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hasn't menu bar applets crowding with no official overflow menu been a problem with MacOS with an obvious solution (add an overflow menu) for... 2+ decades now? I know third party solutions exist and it's kind of an edge case, but still, I remember encountering this back in the day on my ancient plastic Macbook.

It's much worse than it used to be. Before it was only really a problem with apps with a lot of menus, and you could access the items by switching to an app with fewer of them. Now, the notch takes up a lot of space, and you hit it really soon on a 14" display—I can only have maybe three third party menu applets on top of my collection of built-in ones before they disappear into the notch.

I think it's not just the notch, but that menu bar icons are more widely spaced than they used to be. I want to say it happened around Sonoma (10.14)? I was working on a Mac app at the time. Icon styles went from dense with a generally square clickable area to widely spaced, wide rectangular clickable area, and a highlight with rounded corners when clicked.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by fastingrat »

jedberg wrote: post #20

This seems like a good place to ask: What is the current state of the art for connecting back to my home network while remote? I want: access to my home server ability to stream US TV when abroad (by exiting from my home network) ability to make it easy for others with non-tech backgrounds to connect with their devices (parents, kids, etc) ability to have remote linux servers connect automatically on boot. This one i…

if you are behind cgnat (both ipv4, ipv6) then vps, have public ipv6 then you can connect via public domain (ddns openwrt) and if you have a public ip, wireguard it is

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by data-ottawa »

paxys wrote: post #21
javawizard wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know software quality has been going down in recent versions of macOS Note that this particular problem has existed for well over a decade. It's atrocious, but let's not pretend it's anything new.

The macbook notch has existed for a decade?

If you opened an app like Xcode with a lot of menus options, it would extend beyond across the screen and cover up your menu bar icons.

If I open Xcode today on a 14" MacBook, two menu items extend past the notch, and they still hide your menu bar icons.

This has been the case for a long long time, and it's always been an obvious failure case.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by eviks »

> Apple, a company that traditionally favors simple functionality

but not being able to interact with an icon is DISfunctionality, though yes, a simple one. So that principle can't explain the bad design either.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by skavi »

seabrookmx wrote: post #25

> We’re working on a comparable UI for Windows devices As a Linux user and fan of good GUI apps, it always bums me out I'm stuck with the CLI-only options for apps like Tailscale. Even for a simple tray icon I have to resort to buggy GNOME extensions. I understand the fragmented ecosystem and small user-base on the desktop Linux side make it hard to justify, but I hope that changes one day!

this may have been what you were referring to with “ buggy GNOME extensions”, but in case it wasn’t:

https://tailscale.com/docs/features/client/linux-systray

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