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Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by paxys »

javawizard wrote: post #14
paxys wrote: post #3

I haven't had enough menu bar icons to run into this but is it really the case that the notch just hides whatever icons happen to be behind it? Like, the OS doesn't handle this incredibly obvious edge case? Why not just put an overflow dropdown next to the notch (something Windows XP managed to figure out 25 years ago)? I know software quality has been going down in recent versions of macOS but this is absurd.

> I know software quality has been going down in recent versions of macOS Note that this particular problem has existed for well over a decade. It's atrocious, but let's not pretend it's anything new.

The macbook notch has existed for a decade?

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by pants2 »

jedberg wrote: post #20

This seems like a good place to ask: What is the current state of the art for connecting back to my home network while remote? I want: access to my home server ability to stream US TV when abroad (by exiting from my home network) ability to make it easy for others with non-tech backgrounds to connect with their devices (parents, kids, etc) ability to have remote linux servers connect automatically on boot. This one i…

Yes, you've described Tailscale + Exit Nodes + Tailnet that you invite your family to. Install Tailscale and enable some devices as exit nodes - it's pretty much as simple as that.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by threetonesun »

azuanrb wrote: post #5

I’ve been using Bartender (paid) and Thaw (free) to manage my menu bar. Recently, both apps have become quite buggy. I’m not sure whether this is due to macOS or if there are better alternatives I’m not aware of.

I feel like every app I use has gotten buggier in Tahoe, I suppose major UI rewrites will do that.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by paxys »

jedberg wrote: post #20

This seems like a good place to ask: What is the current state of the art for connecting back to my home network while remote? I want: access to my home server ability to stream US TV when abroad (by exiting from my home network) ability to make it easy for others with non-tech backgrounds to connect with their devices (parents, kids, etc) ability to have remote linux servers connect automatically on boot. This one i…

Tailscale will enable all of this.

Set up a US device as an exit node, and configure other devices to proxy through it.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by seabrookmx »

> We’re working on a comparable UI for Windows devices

As a Linux user and fan of good GUI apps, it always bums me out I'm stuck with the CLI-only options for apps like Tailscale. Even for a simple tray icon I have to resort to buggy GNOME extensions.

I understand the fragmented ecosystem and small user-base on the desktop Linux side make it hard to justify, but I hope that changes one day!

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by colechristensen »

jedberg wrote: post #20

This seems like a good place to ask: What is the current state of the art for connecting back to my home network while remote? I want: access to my home server ability to stream US TV when abroad (by exiting from my home network) ability to make it easy for others with non-tech backgrounds to connect with their devices (parents, kids, etc) ability to have remote linux servers connect automatically on boot. This one i…

I found good success with OpenWRT/Tomato and WireGuard.

The interface is bad when it comes to provisioning but it can be done with a QR code and once it works the native experience of turning on the VPN was just stunningly fast. In this day and age you expect things to be slow with negotiation and various unreliable steps but it was just amazing that I tap the VPN button on iOS and it's connected in a fraction of a second.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by corlinp »

Every time I get a new Mac, I run these commands to reduce the spacing between menu bar icons. Lets you fit at least 2x the number of items in the menu bar.

```

defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain NSStatusItemSpacing -int 2

defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain NSStatusItemSelectionPadding -int 2

```

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by re »

gh02t wrote: post #11
giancarlostoro wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is genuinely shocking that Apple is not handling that. Talk about quite a decline in one of their flagship products.

Hasn't menu bar applets crowding with no official overflow menu been a problem with MacOS with an obvious solution (add an overflow menu) for... 2+ decades now? I know third party solutions exist and it's kind of an edge case, but still, I remember encountering this back in the day on my ancient plastic Macbook.

It's much worse than it used to be. Before it was only really a problem with apps with a lot of menus, and you could access the items by switching to an app with fewer of them. Now, the notch takes up a lot of space, and you hit it really soon on a 14" display—I can only have maybe three third party menu applets on top of my collection of built-in ones before they disappear into the notch.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

latchkey wrote: post #9
paxys wrote: post #3

I haven't had enough menu bar icons to run into this but is it really the case that the notch just hides whatever icons happen to be behind it? Like, the OS doesn't handle this incredibly obvious edge case? Why not just put an overflow dropdown next to the notch (something Windows XP managed to figure out 25 years ago)? I know software quality has been going down in recent versions of macOS but this is absurd.

One of the mentioned apps, Bartender, was sold to a third party [0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40584606 I think they've cleaned it up since then [1], but in the age of supply chain attacks, very concerning. Personally, even as a paying user of Bartender, I moved to the open source solution, at least I can watch the github for changes. [1] https://www.macbartender.com/b5blog/Lets-Try-This-Again/

The other mentioned app, Ice, is unmaintained and no longer works on Tahoe. There's a maintained fork called Thaw.

Re: Tailscale's new macOS home

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Post by [deleted] »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #29
latchkey wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the mentioned apps, Bartender, was sold to a third party [0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40584606 I think they've cleaned it up since then [1], but in the age of supply chain attacks, very concerning. Personally, even as a paying user of Bartender, I moved to the open source solution, at least I can watch the github for changes. [1] https://www.macbartender.com/b5blog/Lets-Try-This-Again/

The other mentioned app, Ice, is unmaintained and no longer works on Tahoe. There's a maintained fork called Thaw.

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