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> Credit card transactions and banking software run on this model for example TSYS is super expensive and is dying out. The current generation of banking software is very much shifting to distributed software across commodity data centers.
Source? Interested in learning more about this
IBM Announces Strategic Collaboration with Arm
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Red Hat OpenShift (IBM) is what a lot of banks have settled on. Red Hat went all in maybe 5+ years ago in capturing those institutions.
Is that in addition to mainframes or for completely replacing them?
Probably both, to respond to the risk tolerances of any given org.
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#133This is a serious question. What does IBM, in fact, do? I'm surprised they are still around and apparently relevant. Are they more or less a services and consulting company now?
They own things like: 1. Red Hat Enterprise Linux, which is by far the most commonly deployed Linux variant among US Enterprise orgs. 2. Ansible 3. Podman 4. Hashicorp Terraform / Consul / Packer / Vagrant / Nomad / Etc. 5. Giant B2B services arm 6. Mainframe, which a lot of science organizations / governments / credit card companies still run. Sometimes you may have an IBM rep show up to replace a part on the mainfr…
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Oh that's a weird way to do it; they used to have an x86 add on block for mainframes which was just a pile of x86 blades with some integration.
I loved the era of "daughter cards" which were just entire computers on a board. things like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6b4lYOI0GQ could get you a really interesting form of multitasking
That's what I was hoping Apple was going to do with a refreshed Mac Pro.
I had envisoned a smaller tower design that with PCI slots and Apple developing and selling daughter cards that were basically just a redesigned macbook pro PCB but with a PCI-E edge connector and power connector.
The way I see it a user could start with a reasonably powerful base machine and then upgrade it over time and mix and match different daughter cards. A ten year old desktop is fine as a day to day driver, it just needs some fancy NPU to do fancy AI stuff.
This kind of architecture seems to make sense to me in an age where computers have such a longer usable lifespan and where so many features are integrated into the motherboard.
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x86 servers weren't that common in the 90s and early 200s, that was all sun or the other commercial unix peoples things
Sun was dying in 2000. I was busy deploying BSD and a bit later Linux for all our x86 gear.
Java was exploding and sun machines were the server platform at the time. Yes, the dot com bubble burst and their stock was in freefall but all the things deployed to sun that survived the bubble didn't just disappear or move to X86 overnight
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
I loved the era of "daughter cards" which were just entire computers on a board. things like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6b4lYOI0GQ could get you a really interesting form of multitasking
That's what I was hoping Apple was going to do with a refreshed Mac Pro. I had envisoned a smaller tower design that with PCI slots and Apple developing and selling daughter cards that were basically just a redesigned macbook pro PCB but with a PCI-E edge connector and power connector. The way I see it a user could start with a reasonably powerful base machine and then upgrade it over time and mix and match different…
You can do basically that by connecting over Thunderbolt 5
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh that's a weird way to do it; they used to have an x86 add on block for mainframes which was just a pile of x86 blades with some integration.
I loved the era of "daughter cards" which were just entire computers on a board. things like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6b4lYOI0GQ could get you a really interesting form of multitasking
From the perspective of PC building, I've always thought it would be neat if the CPU/storage/RAM could go on a card with a PCIe edge connector, and then that could be plugged into a "motherboard" that's basically just a PCIe multiplexer out to however many peripheral cards you have.
Maybe it's gimmicky, but I feel like you could get some interesting form factors with the CPU and GPU cards sitting back-to-back or side-by-side, and there would be more flexibility for how to make space for a large air cooler, or take it up again if you've got an AIO.
I know some of this already happens with SFF builds that use a Mini-ITX motherboard + ribbon cable to the GPU, but it's always been a little awkward with Mini-ITX being a 170mm square, and high end GPUs being only 137mm wide but up to 300mm in length.
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Red Hat OpenShift (IBM) is what a lot of banks have settled on. Red Hat went all in maybe 5+ years ago in capturing those institutions.
Is that in addition to mainframes or for completely replacing them?
Both
Some stayed at on prem, some pushed code to mainframe VMs in the cloud, some went to OpenShift (mostly on prem from what Ive seen, probably 80-85%).
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Putting consumer grade (aka "commodity") hardware in a datacenter and running your infra on it is a bit of a meme, in the sense that it's not the only way of doing things. It was probably pioneered/popularized by Google but that's because writing great software was their "hammer", ie they framed every computing problem as a software problem. It was probably easier for them (= Jeff Dean) to take mediocre hardware and…
> Credit card transactions and banking software run on this model for example TSYS is super expensive and is dying out. The current generation of banking software is very much shifting to distributed software across commodity data centers.
Current generation of banking software is expanding on the mainframe:
IBM Z mainframes play a pivotal role in facilitating 87% of global credit card transactions, nearly $8 trillion in annual payments, and 29 billion ATM transactions each year, amounting to nearly $5 billion per day. Rosamilia highlighted the continuous growth in demand for capacity over the past decade, which has seen inventory expand by 3.5 times.
https://thesiliconreview.com/2024/04/ibm-new-mainframe-web-t...
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Red Hat OpenShift (IBM) is what a lot of banks have settled on. Red Hat went all in maybe 5+ years ago in capturing those institutions.
Ah, that explains why IBM bought RedHat. Or at least one reason for doing so.
I'd imagine close to 95% in the US, if they're running important workloads on prem on Linux, it's on RHEL. A staggering number of VMs and bare metal.