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Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

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Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

#11
every time i go back to writing non-clojure code outside of repl-driven environment i feel like a cave man banging rocks against each other

no amount of ide smartness or agentic shenanigans is going to replace the feeling of having development process in sync with your thought process

Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

#13

Slightly off topic, but I find it to be a testament of how software has already eaten the world when friggin Michelin has a tech blog. What's next? General Electric releasing a frontend framework?

Funny example since they’re known for automotive parts and their food guide. It’s almost on brand.

Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

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post #4

It's good to read that Clojure is getting more and more exposure. I write Clojure fpr my day job and wouldn't want to swap it for anything. The community is small but very helpfull and easy reachable. The learning curve is steap indeed, but very much worth it!

Clojure has some pretty big downsides last i looked:

- syntax is hard to read unless you spend a lot time getting used to it

- convention for short var names makes it even harder

- function definition order makes it even harder

- too dynamic for most people's taste

- no type safety

- the opposite of boring

- no clear use case to show it clearly beating other languages

- niche with small community and job market

- JVM

For all those reasons its a hard sell for most imo.

Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

#15

Slightly off topic, but I find it to be a testament of how software has already eaten the world when friggin Michelin has a tech blog. What's next? General Electric releasing a frontend framework?

Funny example since they’re known for automotive parts and their food guide. It’s almost on brand.

I mean how else are you going to get people to drive long distances and buy more tires without giving them yummy destinations to eat at?

Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

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post #14
post #4

It's good to read that Clojure is getting more and more exposure. I write Clojure fpr my day job and wouldn't want to swap it for anything. The community is small but very helpfull and easy reachable. The learning curve is steap indeed, but very much worth it!

Clojure has some pretty big downsides last i looked: - syntax is hard to read unless you spend a lot time getting used to it - convention for short var names makes it even harder - function definition order makes it even harder - too dynamic for most people's taste - no type safety - the opposite of boring - no clear use case to show it clearly beating other languages - niche with small community and job market - JVM…

Most of those seem very subjective with many people having the exact opposite opinion.

Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

#17

every time i go back to writing non-clojure code outside of repl-driven environment i feel like a cave man banging rocks against each other no amount of ide smartness or agentic shenanigans is going to replace the feeling of having development process in sync with your thought process

You just made me wonder if REPL driven development and LLMs can be better combined somehow.

Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

#18

Slightly off topic, but I find it to be a testament of how software has already eaten the world when friggin Michelin has a tech blog. What's next? General Electric releasing a frontend framework?

Toyota has an open source game engine written in Flutter!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98n32VstnpI

Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

#19

Slightly off topic, but I find it to be a testament of how software has already eaten the world when friggin Michelin has a tech blog. What's next? General Electric releasing a frontend framework?

> general electric releasing a frontend framework

or toyota releasing a game engine: https://www.theverge.com/games/875995/toyota-fluorite-game-e...

Re: Bringing Clojure programming to Enterprise (2021)

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post #14
post #4

It's good to read that Clojure is getting more and more exposure. I write Clojure fpr my day job and wouldn't want to swap it for anything. The community is small but very helpfull and easy reachable. The learning curve is steap indeed, but very much worth it!

Clojure has some pretty big downsides last i looked: - syntax is hard to read unless you spend a lot time getting used to it - convention for short var names makes it even harder - function definition order makes it even harder - too dynamic for most people's taste - no type safety - the opposite of boring - no clear use case to show it clearly beating other languages - niche with small community and job market - JVM…

Moby Dick is too hard to read. They should make it shorter with a limited vocabulary.
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