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EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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I can't believe as developers we were worried about AI training on licensed code. It turns out it didn't matter at all. You can just point an LLM at some source code and you're off scot-free.

Almost all apps are just CRUD. The code is not that interesting. The valuable IP is the product.

In what way? Does it matter that there's an Adobe logo on the top if I can just point an LLM at some leaked code and get PictureStore?

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Cloudflare doesn't do April fools jokes. In fact, 1.1.1.1 was released on April 1st back in 2018 and now it's one of the most used DNS service in the world.

8 years later and now I'm getting the 4 1's joke.

I presume if Elon sets up a CDN, the IP will be 20.20.20.20.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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From the readme on GitHub:

> A full-stack TypeScript CMS built on Astro and Cloudflare. EmDash takes the ideas that made WordPress dominant -- extensibility, admin UX, a plugin ecosystem -- and rebuilds them on serverless, type-safe foundations.

Someone should introduce the authors to the lovely em dash character. It's perfect for such sentences!

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Honestly, you'll struggle to find a cloud platform cheaper than cloudflare. The $5/mo gets you 10 million dynamic requests (static assets are not included in this limit, so often a single pageview will be 1 dynamic request) and that would be across the whole workers product for your account, no extra pricing for extra websites, domains, or anything else like you'd see in most "wordpress hosting" I run all my personal…

I run a rust webserver on a €4 VPS from hetzner that serves 300M (million) requests a day. Way cheaper than doing that on _any_ "serverless" request-based platform, I think.

interesting, I'd assumed the lowest tier of hetzner (4.50/m, 2 cpus, 4GB ram) wouldn't hold up to that.

must be very light, for so much traffic. any more details?

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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The cost of building software has drastically decreased. The arrogance of this statement is staggering.

It is true though.

We have a cursor subscription and work and i now see many non-technical people building their own internal tooling. People that had essentially never written a line of code before this new revolution.

The cost of building software has really drastically decreased.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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So this product has nothing to do with wordpress, it's just another CMS that mentioned WP only bcz they created a migration plugin that won't work on 90% of existing wp sites and won't work on 100% of woocommerce sites. This is no successor, it's not even in the same universe. - vendor lock-in, losing gpl, losing access to plugins source code, loosing ownership.

So it's spiritual successor, not successor.

It doesn't feel connected in spirit at all though. It is in the same category of app though. So there is that. Categorical descendant I'd say.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, you'll struggle to find a cloud platform cheaper than cloudflare. The $5/mo gets you 10 million dynamic requests (static assets are not included in this limit, so often a single pageview will be 1 dynamic request) and that would be across the whole workers product for your account, no extra pricing for extra websites, domains, or anything else like you'd see in most "wordpress hosting" I run all my personal…

I run a rust webserver on a €4 VPS from hetzner that serves 300M (million) requests a day. Way cheaper than doing that on _any_ "serverless" request-based platform, I think.

Yes perhaps I should have specified you can't get much cheaper for serverless platforms.

You can certainly run a VPS like that for cheaper, you could probably even beat the raw request numbers from those 1€ a month vps from ovh or similar. The key difference is with cloudflare your site is globally distributed by default, and you get to buy into the whole ecosystem, if you want.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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post #416

So this product has nothing to do with wordpress, it's just another CMS that mentioned WP only bcz they created a migration plugin that won't work on 90% of existing wp sites and won't work on 100% of woocommerce sites. This is no successor, it's not even in the same universe. - vendor lock-in, losing gpl, losing access to plugins source code, loosing ownership.

yeah it's strange, if you are building a CMS in AI times, I think you would want an llm integration first. Not a UX clone of WordPress. The UX of WP is sort of a historical clutch not a plus.

I'd go the other way. Have less stuff. Just a text box, markdown, insane support for mermaid and everything. Dump the "blocks" of wordpress etc. Too confusing and fiddly. Maybe have AI assist to help with styling the rendered page a bit.
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