Seems equally valid to come out of this with the takeaway that code quality _does_ matter, because poor coding practices are what led to the leak. Sure, the weights are where the real value lives, but if the quality is so lax they leak their whole codebase, maybe they are just lucky they didn’t leak customer data or the model weights? If that did happen, the entire business might evaporate overnight.
The Claude Code Leak
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#122The copyright angle is the most underrated part of this story. Anthropic built their models on other people's code under the fair use argument, but the moment their own code leaks they reach for DMCA takedowns. You can't have it both ways. The clean room reimplementations are the natural consequence of the legal framework they themselves advocated for.
There are several ways of looking at law and order. One way is that the law applies to everybody equally. That has been the way it works for many years, not perfectly, in democratic countries. There is another way of working were the law is not blind. Laws are applied based in who is the one affected. This is what big tech and the ultra-rich have been advocating for. The law applies differently to nobility and aristo…
That’s a cynical view, but unfortunately it seems true in many cases, especially for corporate law.
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#123I wonder what happened to the person that wrote "Coding as Creative Expression" ( https://build.ms/2022/5/21/coding-as-creative-expression/ )? I'm not (just) being glib. That earlier article displays some introspection and thoughtful consideration of an old debate. The writing style is clearly personal, human. Today's post is not so much. It has LLM fingerprints on it. It's longer, there are more words. But it doesn'…
Hey there, author of the post here! I actually wrote this piece myself on my phone while I was out for a walk this morning. It was initially meant to be a quick note more than a full blog post —- whereas Coding As A Creative Expression took me a couple of days to write. I made a commitment to write more this year and put my thoughts out quicker than I used to, so that’s likely the primary reason it’s not as deep of a…
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
What if it's used for training data? It seems like there's no penalty for training on copyrighted materials.
Something that was meant to remain secret made public, is not the same thing as whether something public is public. If anything, this is a question of whether you owe royalties to the owner of IP you consumed in your life since it became part of and trained your mind, identity, and outputs too. According to IP owners ever since things were digitized, you technically own nothing and simply paid for an authorization to…
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/meta-torrented-o...
Re: The Claude Code Leak
#125The copyright angle is the most underrated part of this story. Anthropic built their models on other people's code under the fair use argument, but the moment their own code leaks they reach for DMCA takedowns. You can't have it both ways. The clean room reimplementations are the natural consequence of the legal framework they themselves advocated for.
>but the moment their own code leaks they reach for DMCA takedowns. Did they actually? Someone can go to prison for 5 years for that. Fact 1: AI generated code has no copyright, so the Digital Millennium Copyright Act does not apply. Fact 2: Misrepresenting your copyright ownership under the DMCA is felony perjury. Fact 3: The existence of undercover.ts in the leak is grounds to void any copyright claims on whatever…
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are several ways of looking at law and order. One way is that the law applies to everybody equally. That has been the way it works for many years, not perfectly, in democratic countries. There is another way of working were the law is not blind. Laws are applied based in who is the one affected. This is what big tech and the ultra-rich have been advocating for. The law applies differently to nobility and aristo…
A third way of looking at it is that you can't just blindly copy arguments when the situations are clearly different. Nobody, not even Anthropic, is arguing that they should be able to host other people's paid content for free. The crux of their fair-use defense is that models are transformative works, just like parodies or book reviews, and hence should be treated as fair use. You can't just take a pile of books (no…
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you noticed that comments like "this post seems written with AI" are now appearing on all posts, even those written without AI? We're starting to become wary due to the abuse of AI and proliferation of sloppy content, but also because we often have trouble distinguishing authentic from sloppy content. Another feature of this AI era that I hate.
Agreed. Its so tedious that the top comment section on every HN post the last six months is "this seems be written by LLM" with a bunch of back and forth on whether it is or not.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
alternatively the code can go the way of "fast fashion" and even "3d-print your garments in the morning according to your feelings and weather and recycle at the end of the day". If dealing with a functionality that is splittable into microfeatures/microservices, then anything that you need right now can potentially be vibe-coded, even on the fly (and deleted afterwards). Single-use code. >But as time goes on your co…
I can totally wrap my head around that, and it's an interesting thought experiment, though: - building functionalities as components that are swappable on a whim requires a level of careful thought, abstraction and architecture that essentially is the exact opposite to ai slop - in this day and age we still don't make software for the sake of it, and who's financing it doesn't generally require such levels of functio…
that is only for humans really. Why we need these careful thought, abstraction and architecture? Because otherwise the required code becomes an unmanageable pile of spaghetti handling myriad of edge cases of abstraction leaks and unexpected side effects. Human brain can't manage it. AI can or at least soon would be able to. It will just be a large pile of AI slop.
It may also happen that AI will also start generate good component based architecture if forced to minimize or in some other measurable way improve its slop.
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#129Afaik you can run Claude Code locally but every single demo i see uses it exclusively with apis, so are the local models already good enough to be worth it or is the only reasonable use for claude code with cloud models?
Claude Code's main advantage is that it's the only TOS-compliant way to access subscription Claude tokens, which cost about 10% as much as pay-as-you-go Claude API tokens.
I would just want to test around a bit locally, maybe let it do its thing over a weekend just to see the result and then stop it again
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminds me of the classic Mark Twain quote: "Apologies, I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one."
> I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one. First known use in English comes from a 1658 translation of Blaise Pascal in 1657 > Je n’ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n’ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte. translated to > I had not made this longer then the rest, but that I had not the leisure to make it shorter then it is. (note the archaic then) This was a popular piece…
Seems everything old is new again.