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Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Post by dotancohen »

dylan604 wrote: post #730
dotancohen wrote: post #718

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Have you been to the rocket garden at KSC? The Saturn V isn't vertical, but they've got almost everything from the Redstone and later vertical. I was in Florida in 2018 and I think they were getting ready to display a pair of SRBs. They did have Atlantis inside, too. And of course a horizontal Saturn V. I saw that Saturn V as a child once, too. I think that the Saturn V really made me the person that I am today. Seei…

I've never been to KSC. I've been to Houston a few times. I couldn't imagine trying to have a Saturn V permanently standing would be an easy feat with both locations susceptible to hurricanes and tornadoes. Walking the length of it is still pretty impressive. I come from a construction family, so I'd put some of the famous sky scrapers in that category too. Especially thinking about the crazy beam walkers like that f…

A few years ago Spacex did a homage to that photo, with the crew working on the Starship. One of those amazing Human For Scale photos that emphasize just how huge that rocket is.

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Post by kzrdude »

jgord wrote: post #208

Regardless of whether this particular mission is perfectly planned, this is precisely the kind of thing that will help humanity outgrow the dark age of war, inequality and climate mismanagement. It is a noble endeavor - science, engineering and peaceful exploration hold the keys to our survival and prosperity. It is also important psychologically to our survival - a reminder there is a bigger pie, that we can solve h…

I think it's rather the opposite. That space exploration can only possiblly inspire a nation when there is peace, prosperity and justice for all.

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Post by kzrdude »

RealityVoid wrote: post #93
malfist wrote: post #87

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If these astronauts land on the moon, something has gone seriously, seriously wrong.

Maybe they'll just stop for some pictures on the way back. I mean, it's a shame to go all that way and not at least get a cool selfie!

Captain's discretion

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Post by user_7832 »

siruwastaken wrote: post #813

I really hope the report from a few days ago about the heatshield not sustaining earth reentry does not turn out to be true.

I desperately hope so too. It will be absolutely terrible if there were to be an issue, and moreso if people can say “We knew about it beforehand but still went ahead”.

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Post by coldtea »

bdamm wrote: post #810
bluescrn wrote: post #806

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Far too dangerous and noisy for that to ever happen, surely. And too fragile/explodey for niche military uses (long range troop drops?)

If you're thinking of passenger service, perhaps it is a bit unattractive in the short term. No good launching and landing spots. But for military use - think logistics. Rapid delivery of equipment to unusual places. This applies to civilian purposes as well. All kinds of use-cases for speeding up cargo. The entire economics of Starship and rapid reusability was presented at the beginning of the Starbase work, way ba…

>You might want it to be fiction, but he's been very good at figuring out business plans to leverage his ultimate goals.

Not very good on delivering tech though, which is what makes it more fiction than not.

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Post by palata »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #782
palata wrote: post #774

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That we probably could have developed without the space program for a fraction of the cost, if we're being honest.

> That we probably could have developed without the space program for a fraction of the cost, if we're being honest I don't think so. Some people are good at small tasks and stewardship. Some people want to ambitiouslyl build. If there isn't a space program, the engineers who were inspired to join NASA cannot be assumed to have gone into semiconductors or material science. They probably wound up, in the alternate tim…

> If there isn't a space program, the engineers who were inspired to join NASA [...] probably wound up, in the alternate timeline, bureaucrats or financiers.

I guess this is why in this timeline, all engineers in the world are at NASA working on sending humans to space, and everybody else in the world is a bureaucrat.

Do you actually know any kind of engineering that is not happening at NASA? Because it may explain your bias here.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

jojobas wrote: post #802
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #800

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> Judging by the fact it's 2026 you must be writing this from the Mars base SpaceX was started in 2001. It announced Falcon 9 and messaged its reusability ambitions in 2005. Falcon 1 wasn’t going anywhere because making rockets is too hard. Falcons 5 and 9 weren’t going anywhere because medium lift is a different ball game. Falcon Heavy wasn’t going anywhere because timing that many engines impossible. Reuse is impos…

> But they’re ridiculously good at not persisting with stupid. They are persisting with HLS though.

> They are persisting with HLS though

Through what? What experimental data do you think renders this path foolish?

Because I’m seeing a rapid-reuse heavy lift system with a fuel depot being built.

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