why is there even a need to remember IPv6 address in the first place?
IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
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Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#72It'd be nice if simpler addresses gave simpler sentences. fe80::1 translates to "Uninhibited times take now inside new time yet new times take the new year."
Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would have been your solution to needing more bits? More information is always going to be harder to remember.
Adding two extra bits to each octet, making each octet range from a still memorable 0-1023 rather than 0-255, would result in an addressing scheme 256x larger than all of IPv4 combined. The entire internet works fine even when IPv4 was nominally exhausted. NAT and CGNAT are not sins, they're not crimes, and there's no rational reason to be as disgusted with them as IPv6 fans are. Even then, IPv4 exhaustion wasn't rea…
I don't have your problems with ipv6, and I'm actively using it.
I don't have to rely on extra commercial entities to be able to reach my network.
I did have a problem with hosting my own shit because my ISP by default does cgnat. That cost me an hour of my life to convince a party to give what used to be normal, end to end connectivity.
Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#74Just proves that 16 bytes was too much, and we should have just gone 8 bytes.
I'm fine with 16 but they should have only used the bytes as they were needed, at least for 5 and 6 byte addresses, so those who desire short addresses could buy them.
At least on a LAN, you can set up like fe80::3 . I think. Now I'm not sure if I got that right.
Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#75Just proves that 16 bytes was too much, and we should have just gone 8 bytes.
I'm fine with 16 but they should have only used the bytes as they were needed, at least for 5 and 6 byte addresses, so those who desire short addresses could buy them.
My vrrp address for my dns server at home is 2001:8b0:abcd::53
It's about as easy to remember as 81.187.123.45//192.168.0.53
Almost all ipv6 addresses I encounter start with 2001, so I just need to remember my home prefix is 8b0:abcd, which is about the same length as my home public IP of 81.187.123.45
::53 means subnet zero host 53, which is easier to remember than which rfc1918 range I used (and basically is the equivalent of remembering the 2001:: prefix)
If I have an internal server I'd have on 192.168.4.12 I could address it with 2001:8b0:abcd:4::12 just as easily, with the "4.12" translating to "4::12", and the "81.187.123.45>192.168.x.y" translating to "2001:8b0:abcd:x::y"
Just because slacc gives you an extra 64 bits of randomness doesn't mean you need to use them.
Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#76I’m afraid to ask, but why, and who, tries to or wants/needs to remember IPv6 addresses?
Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm fine with 16 but they should have only used the bytes as they were needed, at least for 5 and 6 byte addresses, so those who desire short addresses could buy them.
At least on a LAN, you can set up like fe80::3 . I think. Now I'm not sure if I got that right.
fe80:: is for link local. You'd want to use something starting fc00:: or fd00::
In your typical home environment, just set your ULA to fd00::12 instead of 192.168.0.12, or fd00:16:34 instead of 192.168.16.34
Yes you'll run into issues if you were to later want to merge your private IPs with someone else, and you should use fd12:3456:7890::12 instead, remembering those extra 10 digits, but its not a problem at home, and no more of a problem with business mergers than ipv4 clashes anyway.
Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#78This encoding is so long, that I'm more likely to remember the raw address. :D And I don't think I ever typed manually any IPv6 address other than `::1`.
No need to type `::1` anymore, you can instead just type `The new times take now beneath the new time while new times take the new year.`
OK. That's much easier. :D
Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#79They should charge a small annual fee and let people reserve a custom word for a given IP. You could even have a small utility on your computer that automatically queries given names to "resolve" to IPs.
Re: IPv6 address, as a sentence you can remember
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't remember my ipv4 addresses either, but I recognize them as mine when I see them. I've never recognized an IPv6 address or prefix used in my networks.
You can set your ULA to something like "fddd:192:168::/48" and then on your vlan you prefix hint, say, "66". Now, any device on that vlan will be addressable by "fddd:192:168:66::$host". For example, your gateway ('router') for that vlan would be "fddd:192:168:66::1". If you want to be really wonky you can script DHCPv6 to statically assign ULA IPv6 leases that match the IPv4, and expire them when the IPv4 lease expi…
I run split-horizon DNS on mine. By far my preferred solution.