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Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Post by dylan604 »

anonymars wrote: post #279
reimertz wrote: post #271

watched this with teary eyes. it truly shows what we can do when we come together and challenge ourselves for the greater good of humanity.

A real bright spot compared to lately. The messages of positivity and comradery in the live stream were a nice contrast (That being said, I can't believe they cut to people on the ground during SRB separation!) edit: here's better footage from Everyday Astronaut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOsSRRBMNoc&t=24512s

I was cussing at the director of that video stream during that. It was a totally useless shot as well that they lingered on that already had me bothered, and then to cut back to the SRBs fully separated had me in full contempt. Nothing to see here and everything to miss. It's like music videos showing the singer doing nothing while the guitarist is shredding a solo. Like WTF. You have one job, and you totally botched the hell out of it. You get what you pay for I guess. Lowest bidding contractor???

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Post by mulmen »

krapp wrote: post #612
WaterRun wrote: post #599

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developing something like this would push the frontiers of human technology. Without the Apollo program, not to mention anything else, the personal computer boom in the 1970s might have been delayed by a long time.

We're redoing things we did before most people in this thread were even born, how would any of this "push the frontiers of human technology?"

Because we have gone backwards so any advancement requires some repetition.

Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Post by esrauch »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #597
GaryBluto wrote: post #450

It is very disconcerting to see so many completely disregarding incredible technological innovation because other problems exist, especially on HN. If we were not allowed to progress technology until everybody is 100% free of suffering, we'd never be able to create technological that may potentially lead to the alleviation of suffering. It all feels very crabs in a bucket - "I don't feel happy so nobody else should,…

How dare we want to fix the existential threats on the planet before we spend billions on a publicity stunt. No, there's no possible way we "save humanity" with space exploration. The whole "eggs in more than one basket" thing is insane. The resources required to establish a colony, get it self-sufficient, then able to grow, and then put enough people on it will take half a century and the planet is burning up today…

Do you think that had this not launched that it would have been spent on something else that would have "saved humanity" better?

US spends 4x as much on just nuclear bombs as the NASA budget for some perspective. Nuclear bombs are only 10% of the military budget, and as big as the military spending is, all of that is still only 15% of the federal budget.

It seems a bit ridiculous to be thinking NASA spending is in any way meaningfully holding us back from whatever "save humanity" spending we could be doing.

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Post by [deleted] »

WaterRun wrote: post #601
dylan604 wrote: post #579

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While that might be true, it is on course to the moon now . Starship hasn't really done anything close. So while cheaper might be on the way, it doesn't exist now . When Starship can do now , we can talk about if the Shuttle Leftover System is ready to be retired

Starship is not designed for high-orbit deep-space missions; it is more like a cargo truck for low Earth orbit.

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Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Post by dylan604 »

WaterRun wrote: post #601
dylan604 wrote: post #579

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While that might be true, it is on course to the moon now . Starship hasn't really done anything close. So while cheaper might be on the way, it doesn't exist now . When Starship can do now , we can talk about if the Shuttle Leftover System is ready to be retired

Starship is not designed for high-orbit deep-space missions; it is more like a cargo truck for low Earth orbit.

Fine, but you're dodging the actual point here I think

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Post by WaterRun »

krapp wrote: post #612
WaterRun wrote: post #599

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developing something like this would push the frontiers of human technology. Without the Apollo program, not to mention anything else, the personal computer boom in the 1970s might have been delayed by a long time.

We're redoing things we did before most people in this thread were even born, how would any of this "push the frontiers of human technology?"

The Space Shuttle’s technology is indeed quite old, but by today’s standards it is not exactly outdated. What matters is that we have lost the ability to carry out that technology — or even the ability to organize and coordinate a project like that. Otherwise, the price of the SLS as an “off-the-shelf product” would not be so outrageous, and it would not keep getting delayed again and again. Technology gets forgotten and capability is lost as people and suppliers disappear. The fact that we could build the Saturn V half a century ago does not mean we could still build it today; even the fact that we could build the F-22 twenty years ago does not mean we could still produce it now once the production lines are gone. Restoring that capability is always a good thing, considering the indirect effects.

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Post by Melatonic »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #604
dylan604 wrote: post #589

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't war on Earth not the issue but war with other species in the galaxy the issue? Sure, there were some sympathizers trying to sabotage peace, but that's because they wanted to continue warring.

There is the Maquis which are basically insurrectionists/terrorists and Starfleet also has Section 31 for doing wet work. Sisko poisoned a planet’s atmosphere, allowed political assassinations and even Picard did things that could be considered questionable once or twice, even Kirk. Earth is peaceful because well…in a show about exploring space nobody really wants to see conflicts on Earth (there are a few exceptions…

Earth is peaceful because they went through the horrors of WWIII already
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