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Post by whackernews »

general_reveal wrote: post #365
curiousgal wrote: post #324

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Well. You are getting down voted but here I am in later stages in life watching this Moon launch, and unlike other times in past, I didn’t feel any inspiration. Honestly, it’s a waste of money. That’s my final answer, there’s kids that need food. I am no longer inspired by this stuff. I’ve seen enough advanced technology for many lifetimes, we need something else as a species (more of that humanity thing).

A waste of money to explore the cosmos? It’s our duty is it not? What exactly are you doing about kids starving?

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Post by gregdeon »

birdsongs wrote: post #316
IshKebab wrote: post #299

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I don't know why you're getting downvoted. The camera work was atrocious. It's not just frilly video, it's how the world sees it, emotionally connects to it, and grows up loving it, and wanting to support more. We had black screens as it left the pad, they didn't know what camera to switch to and kept changing feeds every 2-3 seconds, they switched to a grainy feed of the crowd just looking up while booster separatio…

I suspect that they might have switched away from the booster separation on purpose. That's probably a risky moment of the launch, and they may have wanted to avoid televising a disaster like in the Challenger launch.

Aside from that, agreed that the camera work was awful.

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Post by vortegne »

general_reveal wrote: post #372
vortegne wrote: post #369

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Yeah. I've been excited about Artemis since the very start and have been following everything very closely. And of course I was excited about this launch. But I'm gonna be honest, I'm not feeling any positive feelings here in the moment. It's an insane achievement, but it kind of means nothing for humanity. A nation's representatives literally popping champagne because they passed a law that will allow them to hang t…

JYNX, go read my comment!

Yours was first indeed! Took me a couple minutes to put my thoughts into some awkwardly phrased words

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Post by krapp »

wvbdmp wrote: post #247
jgord wrote: post #208

Regardless of whether this particular mission is perfectly planned, this is precisely the kind of thing that will help humanity outgrow the dark age of war, inequality and climate mismanagement. It is a noble endeavor - science, engineering and peaceful exploration hold the keys to our survival and prosperity. It is also important psychologically to our survival - a reminder there is a bigger pie, that we can solve h…

I hope so, but if this goes awry in any way, especially if – god forbid – they lose the crew, my fear is it’ll be a blow to the American hegemony that will be very hard to recover from. Orange man is bad, but I think something like that would add a whole other dimension to the US’s loss of face. I’m as anti-american as they come, but despite everything Pax Americana must be acknowledged and I shudder at the thought o…

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Post by runarberg »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #223
runarberg wrote: post #59

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Whether a moon base is needed or even beneficial is a question I have not heard a convincing answer in favor. And even if moon base is indeed needed and/or beneficial to future space exploration / resource extraction why robots cannot more efficiently build (or assemble) such a moon base is another question I need an answer to. We are sending humans to (or around) the moon now, but it may just turn out to be a wasted…

> Whether a moon base is needed or even beneficial is a question I have not heard a convincing answer in favor If we want to go to Mars, the Moon is a good place to learn. Simple things like how to do trauma medicine in low g; how to accommodate a variety of human shapes, sizes and fitness levels; how to do in situ manufacturing; all the way to more-speculative science like how to gestate a mammal. These are easier t…

We don‘t want to colonize space. Colonizing space is science fiction, not a serious goal for humanity, and certainly not an engineering challenge. There is no reason for humans to live anywhere other then on Earth. We have more reasons to live on Antarctica or the deep ocean then on the Moon, Mars or Alpha Centauri.

What I really want is for us to send a lander and a launcher to Mars capable of returning to earth the the capsules Perseverance has been collecting. I would love for geologists on earth to examine Mars rock under a microscope. I would want them to take detailed pictures of an exoplanet using the Sun as a gravitational lens. And I would love it if they could send probes to Alpha Proxima using solar sails to get there within a couple of decades.

None of these would benefit from having a moon base. In fact this moon base seems to be diverting funds away from missions with more chance of success and more scientific value.

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Post by partiallypro »

The politicization of everything and constant doomerish on here sure has echoes of early 2000s Slashdot. That's not a compliment. Reading the comments here is actually depressing. Human progress is never all at once, we can't even celebrate this triumph? Life is almost never "one or the other," the program could be scrapped to a junk yard and that wouldn't solve global hunger or global conflicts. Setting human eyes forward is good.

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Post by hagbard_c »

IshKebab wrote: post #299

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Well, yes, we certainly can as is shown by the coverage of SpaceX launches. I guess NASA is just not as focused on publicity as commercial launch operators are. They should have read The Right Stuff and learned the mantra No bucks, no Buck Rogers. Next time, better I hope.

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Post by randomNumber7 »

russdill wrote: post #221
glenstein wrote: post #216

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Did you read it? They're prolific here and the essence of the post is a bunch of citations and quotes from Nasa's own staff and literature.

Yes, I've also read material outside of that article from NASA's own staff and literature. Statements like this: "Put more simply, NASA is going to fly Artemis II based on vibes, hoping that whatever happened to the heat shield on Artemis I won’t get bad enough to harm the crew on Artemis II." Are just so intellectually dishonest and completely ignore the extensive research and testing that's gone into qualifying thi…

You really have no argument except the appeal to authority.

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Post by Apocryphon »

justinator wrote: post #345
__loam wrote: post #326

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Go look at the amount of grants getting funded this year and tell me we aren't completely gutting the national research apparatus.

I just need to look locally and see we're in trouble. NIST, NCAR. Super Drought conditions forming in the West. This isn't good. But hurray Moon missions, I guess. Pity we're causing the entire World Economy to collapse with a unneeded war.

Rather unfortunate timing that the original Apollo moon landing also happened in the middle of the Vietnam War.
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