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Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Post by krapp »

jgord wrote: post #208

Regardless of whether this particular mission is perfectly planned, this is precisely the kind of thing that will help humanity outgrow the dark age of war, inequality and climate mismanagement. It is a noble endeavor - science, engineering and peaceful exploration hold the keys to our survival and prosperity. It is also important psychologically to our survival - a reminder there is a bigger pie, that we can solve h…

>Regardless of whether this particular mission is perfectly planned, this is precisely the kind of thing that will help humanity outgrow the dark age of war, inequality and climate mismanagement.

You watch too much Star Trek. This is precisely the kind of thing that will benefit the military industrial complex, enrich billionaires at the expense of everyone else, and justify the government raping natural resources like it's a little girl locked in a cage.

No one cares about space any more and no one engaging in space travel is doing so for science anymore. Those days, if they ever really existed, are over. NASA has been cleansed and gutted and purged of wrongthink and now only exists to further the cause of American propaganda and be parasitized by SpaceX and intelligence agencies.

Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

justinator wrote: post #360
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Orion that’s dodgy as fuck not the booster. I.e the new thing I mean, newly shaped and partly reformulated. Avcoat was “originally created…for the Apollo program” [1]. (“A reformulated version was used for the initial Orion heat shield and later for a redesigned Orion heat shield.”) The new things are Orion’s size and weight and the size of the tiles. All of which has precedented flight in Artemis I. At the end of…

Aren't astronauts by definition bat shit crazy? We have people lining up for one-way missions to Mars. Not to say this is a bad thing, but their ROI calculations are not normal.

> Aren't astronauts by definition bat shit crazy?

By poetic definition, e.g. “Here’s to the Crazy Ones,” yes. Clinically and technically, no. They’re paragons of human explorers, and exploration is a fundamentally human trait.

> We have people lining up for one-way missions to Mars

How many astronauts?

Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

openasocket wrote: post #62
CoastalCoder wrote: post #6

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Out of curiosity, why do you see this as a worthwhile endeavor? My personal perspective is that the resources are better used for other purposes, but it's possible that I just haven't encountered some compelling reason yet.

This argument comes up a lot, about whether a space program is “worth it” in some sense. One problem I’ve found is that these discussions often treat this in the abstract. And then we get into the nature of human endeavor, the economic benefits of that R&D, etc. Let’s talk about this in terms of practicalities. The NASA budget for 2026, per Wikipedia, is $24.4B. I often find it hard to really reason about the size of…

> And we talk a lot about whether NASAs budget is better used for other purposes, but we don’t do the same thing for a streaming service.

Actually, we do. I just cancelled two of mine in the last hour, and I know many people who are serial join/cancel subscribers because they "talk a lot about whether the [monthly fee] is better used for other purposes".

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Post by general_reveal »

curiousgal wrote: post #324

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Well. You are getting down voted but here I am in later stages in life watching this Moon launch, and unlike other times in past, I didn’t feel any inspiration.

Honestly, it’s a waste of money. That’s my final answer, there’s kids that need food. I am no longer inspired by this stuff.

I’ve seen enough advanced technology for many lifetimes, we need something else as a species (more of that humanity thing).

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Post by none2585 »

0xffff2 wrote: post #282

I do hope the doomers who think that the entire US government has been completely gutted will take note of this. The government workforce is in a bad spot for sure, SLS is far from a perfect program, but this still demonstrates that we are doing some real work still.

We are basically going this to funnel more tax payer dollars to musk or bezos. What a moment for humanity

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Post by birdsongs »

drivers99 wrote: post #334
birdsongs wrote: post #316

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I don't know why you're getting downvoted. The camera work was atrocious. It's not just frilly video, it's how the world sees it, emotionally connects to it, and grows up loving it, and wanting to support more. We had black screens as it left the pad, they didn't know what camera to switch to and kept changing feeds every 2-3 seconds, they switched to a grainy feed of the crowd just looking up while booster separatio…

They had the longest reaction shot of some people filming it with their phones (maybe they got a good shot) and when they switched back to after the booster separation I said at the time, “that would have been cool to see.”

Yeah it was horrible. Why are we here, to watch a video feed of other people watching it live through their phones?

We have 30 seconds maybe while this thing is in the local atmosphere, Jesus Christ just keep the camera on it and let us watch it launch.

I know this sounds like whining, and part of me is annoyed that I'm so annoyed at this. But it was just such an emotional moment, and it felt like the media team had no plan or any idea what to do.

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Post by kypro »

sd9 wrote: post #320

Minutes after launch they reached "ten thousand miles per hour". That's 2.78 miles per second. Nuts. No doubt the speeds go even higher later too. I'm sure people here are already familiar with the speeds these things go, but that's the first time I've confronted a fact like that and it blew me away.

I was thinking the exact same thing when they announced the speed. I assume the top speed of Artemis will be at least double that too...

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Post by vortegne »

curiousgal wrote: post #324

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Yeah. I've been excited about Artemis since the very start and have been following everything very closely. And of course I was excited about this launch.

But I'm gonna be honest, I'm not feeling any positive feelings here in the moment. It's an insane achievement, but it kind of means nothing for humanity. A nation's representatives literally popping champagne because they passed a law that will allow them to hang their hostages, just a day ago.

The engineering advancements that have been made during Artemis will be used to kill children tomorrow and the day after that. I have spent a large amount of my life in pursuit of knowledge about space exploration. I would give up any chance of ever knowing anything about space for the safety of those children. None of this hubristic rocket crap really matters in the end.

And I know, NASA and the military have always been intertwined, same coin, etc etc. But it stings harder specifically today. All tenets of the so-called "civilized western world" thrown out for greed and evil. We don't deserve space exploration right now.

@dang i know this is not super HN-friendly stuff here, delete if you must

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