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Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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I do hope the doomers who think that the entire US government has been completely gutted will take note of this. The government workforce is in a bad spot for sure, SLS is far from a perfect program, but this still demonstrates that we are doing some real work still.

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Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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I do hope the doomers who think that the entire US government has been completely gutted will take note of this. The government workforce is in a bad spot for sure, SLS is far from a perfect program, but this still demonstrates that we are doing some real work still.

I certainly hope the mission goes as planned but it does feel like SLS is the wrong approach in the time of reusable rockets, even if this specific mission profile would probably have demanded the booster be expendable. Using the Shuttle main engines - designed and made to be 'refurbishable' rather than 'reusable' but still dumped into the ocean after each mission - and the SRBs (solid boosters) still gives the impression of the booster design being dictated (at least in part) to accommodate the needs of former Shuttle contractors. If either Starship+Superheavy or some other fully reusable heavy left vehicle comes on-line it will be hard for NASA to justify spending billions of $ on, well, a flying pork barrel. Sure, it has been proven time and time again that canned pigs can in fact fly but that does not make them the go-to transport.

Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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I hope so, but if this goes awry in any way, especially if – god forbid – they lose the crew, my fear is it’ll be a blow to the American hegemony that will be very hard to recover from. Orange man is bad, but I think something like that would add a whole other dimension to the US’s loss of face. I’m as anti-american as they come, but despite everything Pax Americana must be acknowledged and I shudder at the thought o…

> Pax Americana must be acknowledged and I shudder at the thought of it shattering. Shudder away! We've already had both Carney and the finance minister of Singapore essentially declare Pax Americana to have ended. Everybody else is just being polite. [EDIT: prime minister of Singapore, not finance minister]

Until nukes are going off, Pax Americana stands strong.

Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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Regardless of whether this particular mission is perfectly planned, this is precisely the kind of thing that will help humanity outgrow the dark age of war, inequality and climate mismanagement. It is a noble endeavor - science, engineering and peaceful exploration hold the keys to our survival and prosperity. It is also important psychologically to our survival - a reminder there is a bigger pie, that we can solve h…

This is a new space race. From a geopolitical level, a nation that has a better presence on the moon will have a better strategic advantage.

What about the mineshaft gap though?

Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

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> this is precisely the kind of thing that will help humanity outgrow the dark age of war, inequality and climate mismanagement. How do you figure? The previous Moon missions certainly didn't accomplish that.

Global rates of poverty are 83% lower than they were in 1969 when we landed on the moon. So actually, millions of lives have massively benefited from science and technology. To be cynical in the face of all that is a personal take, not a reflection of the facts.

So landing on the moon triggered a reduction in global rates of poverty? do you have any research or citations for this claim?

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Does anyone know of a good status tracker for the mission? I'm watching the official feed on Youtube and it's great for commentary but I'd love a live Kerbal-style UI I could poke around.

Here is the official one from NASA:

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis-ii/arow/

but I admit that it isn't what I would really want.

Re: Artemis II Launch Day Updates

#359

I do hope the doomers who think that the entire US government has been completely gutted will take note of this. The government workforce is in a bad spot for sure, SLS is far from a perfect program, but this still demonstrates that we are doing some real work still.

We'd look better if there was still a USAID.

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It’s Orion that’s dodgy as fuck not the booster. I.e the new thing. Not the decades old, proven, launch engines. Let’s wait for the back patting when they splash down. I genuinely hope not but i am worried about this craft.

> Orion that’s dodgy as fuck not the booster. I.e the new thing I mean, newly shaped and partly reformulated. Avcoat was “originally created…for the Apollo program” [1]. (“A reformulated version was used for the initial Orion heat shield and later for a redesigned Orion heat shield.”) The new things are Orion’s size and weight and the size of the tiles. All of which has precedented flight in Artemis I. At the end of…

Aren't astronauts by definition bat shit crazy? We have people lining up for one-way missions to Mars. Not to say this is a bad thing, but their ROI calculations are not normal.
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