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DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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“Killing” is strong phrasing. Yes, a $250 mini PC I bought last year is now $350. Is this pricing bad? Yeah, compared to what it was. Is this the end of the world? Not really, and we’ve seen price spikes for all kinds of PC components in the past. It’s rarely permanent.

Not everyone earns tech bro salaries and can sustain a thousand cuts. Many hobbiests are scraping and saving money to acquire hardware. For some it very well msy be the end of their world.

Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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The title should say: "Collusion of large corporations promoting LLMs with RAM manufacturers is killing the hobbyist SBC market (and bankrupting anybody trying to get a PC or laptop)".

Because we all know that DRAM prices have spiked since production is going to those infernal chatbot training data centers. Same as a lot of the electricity in some parts of the world, BTW.

Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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post #10

DRAM pricing is killing the everything market. We just had a vendor uplift our quote 50% per unit for some machines because of a mix of memory + supply chain issues.

That’s strange, there aren’t wider market supply chain issues outside of DRAM. Maybe your vendor is just throwing excuses around.

SSDs and HDDs are being squeezed as well.

Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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post #11
post #9

“Killing” is strong phrasing. Yes, a $250 mini PC I bought last year is now $350. Is this pricing bad? Yeah, compared to what it was. Is this the end of the world? Not really, and we’ve seen price spikes for all kinds of PC components in the past. It’s rarely permanent.

Not everyone earns tech bro salaries and can sustain a thousand cuts. Many hobbiests are scraping and saving money to acquire hardware. For some it very well msy be the end of their world.

We are talking about brand new latest gen hardware here. People with low budgets are always scraping and saving for deals and don’t need to buy something brand new from a pricey brand name like raspberry pi.

You can still jump on eBay and buy all kinds of dirt cheap used pieces of hardware.

My buddy just bought a used ThinkPad T14 with 32GB of RAM and 1TB of storage for about $500. You can get by with a whole lot less.

In this context, I will also present the idea that Rasperry Pi has represented quite poor cost value for many years now.

Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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The title should say: "Collusion of large corporations promoting LLMs with RAM manufacturers is killing the hobbyist SBC market (and bankrupting anybody trying to get a PC or laptop)". Because we all know that DRAM prices have spiked since production is going to those infernal chatbot training data centers. Same as a lot of the electricity in some parts of the world, BTW.

Can you elaborate on the collusion aspect? Is the implication that OpenAI and Anthropic are coordinating their purchases in such a way that they target the hobbyist market? What’s the collusion angle here?

Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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post #6

it's probably time to call those old retired programmers to ask them how to reduce software memory footprint or to teach that again

The art is not lost, just not funded. Feel free to fund the programmers for your own software projects.

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Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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post #10

DRAM pricing is killing the everything market. We just had a vendor uplift our quote 50% per unit for some machines because of a mix of memory + supply chain issues.

That’s strange, there aren’t wider market supply chain issues outside of DRAM. Maybe your vendor is just throwing excuses around.

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Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

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post #10

DRAM pricing is killing the everything market. We just had a vendor uplift our quote 50% per unit for some machines because of a mix of memory + supply chain issues.

That’s strange, there aren’t wider market supply chain issues outside of DRAM. Maybe your vendor is just throwing excuses around.

They’re throwing something around.

Re: DRAM pricing is killing the hobbyist SBC market

#20
post #10

DRAM pricing is killing the everything market. We just had a vendor uplift our quote 50% per unit for some machines because of a mix of memory + supply chain issues.

That’s strange, there aren’t wider market supply chain issues outside of DRAM. Maybe your vendor is just throwing excuses around.

DRAM is up more than that 50% though.
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