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Re: Jewish Problems

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Post by shmerl »

mynameishere wrote: post #9

It's just affirmative action. This sort of thing happens in every multicultural country, especially when one group apparently does better financially than the others. http://www.amazon.com/Affirmative-Action-Around-World-Empiri... The Russians came up with an unusually crass method for this, but guess what? Jews and other whites and East Asians all are, to some degree, kept from elite institutions today because of ou…

Don't call semi-officially government sanctioned antisemitism with stupid euphemisms. It's plain insulting.

Re: Jewish Problems

#12

Post by dobro »

nacker wrote: post #4

I think America will soon be having a Holocaust problem. http://www.infowars.com/poll-nearly-one-third-of-americans-w...

Well, Hitler was inspired by the american concentration camps for native americans to build his own concentration camps for Jews:

“Hitler’s concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America’s extermination – by starvation and uneven combat – of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity.” (“Adolph Hitler” by John Toland, p 202)

Plus, there were two to three times more native americans that were killed by European invaders in the US region, than Jews that died in the holocaust.

So, the US already has HAD a holocaust problem in the past.

(One would call dropping two bombs to 250,000 civilians and evaporating them, a holocaust itself, by the very definition of the term)

Re: Jewish Problems

#13

Post by jonnathanson »

DaniFong wrote: post #10
mynameishere wrote: post #9

It's just affirmative action. This sort of thing happens in every multicultural country, especially when one group apparently does better financially than the others. http://www.amazon.com/Affirmative-Action-Around-World-Empiri... The Russians came up with an unusually crass method for this, but guess what? Jews and other whites and East Asians all are, to some degree, kept from elite institutions today because of ou…

Affirmative action? Are you mad? Perhaps you're unaware of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_pogroms_in_the_Russ... Affirmative action is not the same thing as making it artificially harder for a discriminated minority!

I think what he was trying to say is that this is affirmative action for gentiles. In other words, Russia made it easier for non-Jews by virtue of giving them easier entrance exams.

I still think "affirmative action" is a clumsy and not entirely correct way of describing what he's trying to articulate. But he's not trying to be as provocative as he comes across. At least I don't think (?) he is?

Re: Jewish Problems

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Post by dbecker »

nacker wrote: post #6
agf wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly does that have to do with math or intolerance?

Actually, nothing. I just posted it because I am in shock after reading it. Feel free to downvote, or, I'll just delete it. Are you one of the "nearly one third"? EDIT: To be fair though, it does have a Jewish connection - cattle trains?

If you read something and find it compelling, submit it as a new story rather than tacking it on to an unrelated comment thread.

Re: Jewish Problems

#16

Post by [deleted] »

DaniFong wrote: post #10
mynameishere wrote: post #9

It's just affirmative action. This sort of thing happens in every multicultural country, especially when one group apparently does better financially than the others. http://www.amazon.com/Affirmative-Action-Around-World-Empiri... The Russians came up with an unusually crass method for this, but guess what? Jews and other whites and East Asians all are, to some degree, kept from elite institutions today because of ou…

Affirmative action? Are you mad? Perhaps you're unaware of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_pogroms_in_the_Russ... Affirmative action is not the same thing as making it artificially harder for a discriminated minority!

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Re: Jewish Problems

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Post by _delirium »

DaniFong wrote: post #10
mynameishere wrote: post #9

It's just affirmative action. This sort of thing happens in every multicultural country, especially when one group apparently does better financially than the others. http://www.amazon.com/Affirmative-Action-Around-World-Empiri... The Russians came up with an unusually crass method for this, but guess what? Jews and other whites and East Asians all are, to some degree, kept from elite institutions today because of ou…

Affirmative action? Are you mad? Perhaps you're unaware of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_pogroms_in_the_Russ... Affirmative action is not the same thing as making it artificially harder for a discriminated minority!

It sounds less like a serious attempt to understand this episode in history, and more like a way to score a quick point about 21st-century American politics.

Re: Jewish Problems

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Post by rayiner »

dobro wrote: post #12
nacker wrote: post #4

I think America will soon be having a Holocaust problem. http://www.infowars.com/poll-nearly-one-third-of-americans-w...

Well, Hitler was inspired by the american concentration camps for native americans to build his own concentration camps for Jews: “Hitler’s concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circl…

The US's extermination of American Indians was brilliant and cunning. If you study the historical record, one thing you become aware of is that the colonists didn't originally have the advantage. They had guns, but that wasn't so much of an edge that the Indians couldn't have wiped out the colonists with their superior numbers.

Even at the time of the American Revolution, you see treaties with the Delaware Indians that are incredibly deferential, asking for their permission to cross Indian territory to fight the British.

The exterimination proceeded slowly over almost 100 years. We would make treaties, at first deferential then increasingly aggressive, to placate the Indians while slowly moving them off desirable land. American numbers grew while Indian numbers dwindled, until we got to the state that exists now, with them isolated to tiny little pockets of land.

Re: Jewish Problems

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Post by dobro »

rayiner wrote: post #19
dobro wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Hitler was inspired by the american concentration camps for native americans to build his own concentration camps for Jews: “Hitler’s concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circl…

The US's extermination of American Indians was brilliant and cunning. If you study the historical record, one thing you become aware of is that the colonists didn't originally have the advantage. They had guns, but that wasn't so much of an edge that the Indians couldn't have wiped out the colonists with their superior numbers. Even at the time of the American Revolution, you see treaties with the Delaware Indians th…

Exactly as you described it.

I had the privilege to discuss the issue with the late Russell Means ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Means ) a few years ago.

What's disgusting is that the abuse continues to this very day.

First they were decimated, then they were forced into "reformation camps" to break their spirit, and then casino licenses and the like were thrown to them as a bone (and to corrupt and silence the more tempted or gullible with the easy money).

The government and various interested parties even try to take some of their supposedly "sovereign" reservation lands from them and/or poison them to get profitable minerals such as Uranium.

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