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EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by Dylan16807 »

AbraKdabra wrote: post #189
bombcar wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This crap thinking has to stop, not everything is "hey agent do this" then sit, wait and publish as is. Also this is a Cloudflare official software, do you REALLY think this is 100% vibe coded without human intervention? Come on...

While I agree with your first sentence, I haven't been impressed with cloudflare's AI track record. I think my expectations for "cloudflare software on the HN front page that was significantly AI coded" are lower than "random guy's software on the HN front page that was significantly AI coded".

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by devmor »

You want a spiritual successor? We have Ghost.

You want anything beyond ghost? Find a way to port the vast market of 100,000+ cheap and free themes and components that are available to enable tech-illiterate, low-budget users to basically build an entire business platform on a $5/mo shared hosting plan.

A vibe coded CMS that's 3 months in the making is not capable of taking that place in the market, no matter how much VC funding you put behind it.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by nikcub »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #110

Serious question: Why is everyone still using JavaScript to AI-code projects? You can vibe-code apps with real languages now. There's no reason to use an interpreted, bloated, weird language anymore. The only reason interpreted languages were a thing was so you could edit a file and re-run it immediately without a compile step. Compiling is now cheap, and you don't have to build expertise in a new language anymore. A…

a) llms are good at writing typescript

b) typescript fixed a lot about javascript and is somewhat decent

c) multiple fast and performant runtime engines

d) deployment story is php levels of easy

that's it.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by fragmede »

ascorbic wrote: post #124
solarkraft wrote: post #99

Convince me this isn’t vibeslop. If Cloudflare really have radically changed their software development philosophy lately, this would actually be an interesting project, being based on Astro and coming with some APIs for programmatic management. Them being so happy about the „cost of software development“ and not going very deep into ecosystem, community or project management doesn’t convince me that this is going to…

I'm the main engineer on this. I've also been on the Astro core team for two years, so I do think I understand real open source software and community. As the post implies, I did use a lot of agent time on this, but this isn't a vibe-coded weekend project. I've been working full time on this since mid-January.

Picking April First to launch is certainly a Decision.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by rovr138 »

odst wrote: post #153
ascorbic wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the main engineer on this. I've also been on the Astro core team for two years, so I do think I understand real open source software and community. As the post implies, I did use a lot of agent time on this, but this isn't a vibe-coded weekend project. I've been working full time on this since mid-January.

I think one of the reasons people think this is slop is because of the name. How does the name EmDash relate to being a wordpress spiritual successor? It's clear the name was chosen as it relates to the use of em dashes in AI generated text, so why would you want to be associated with that? Why not choose a name like Astro Press given your experience on Astro?

Well, an em dash is used in text to identify a pause or alternatives in the text.

..so like a fork in the way it's done, a new way of doing things.

But you need to remove the dev/ai hat in order to go back to writing rules and the real use.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by t1234s »

I think wordpress, woo commerce and elementor are in a Mexican standoff. Wordpress cant fork or change in a major way because the other two are so popular no one would use the new variant. woo commercere and elementor can't just walk away and make their own wordpress-less platform because they rely on each other and the other constellation of plugins that run on wordpress.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by hexo »

spongebobstoes wrote: post #163
bombcar wrote: post #143

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how long should it take to gain your confidence? how did you arrive at your number? the state of the art of software engineering is to use AI. it's just reality

how long? 10 years

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by Dylan16807 »

alsetmusic wrote: post #117
reaperducer wrote: post #111

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I can assure you this is not an April Fools. Cloudflare does not do that. It should. I miss the days when tech was interesting and fun. Even Steve Jobs, for all his later-day revisionist hard-assed reputation, enjoyed the occasional Easter egg, inside joke, or April Fool's joke.

I hated that shit. I'd load Slashdot and there was no real content or it was difficult to find real news amongst all the crap. It's not funny. It's annoying.

Some of the april fools things can be annoying, but I have a big shrug for there being less real news for a day. Anything important will get through and most days don't have much interesting news anyway.
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