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EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by reaperducer »

jgrahamc wrote: post #91
8organicbits wrote: post #27

I don't think it's the code that makes WordPress valuable. I've been learning WordPress recently and haven't been too impressed with the internals. WordPress is valuable because of the ecosystem and support. I have no doubt that WordPress will still be a thing in ten years. What's the support plan for EmDash? I see commits are mostly from a single developer. E: Oh, I think it's an April fools joke, I'm embarrassed. E…

I can assure you this is not an April Fools. Cloudflare does not do that. This is a real project.

I can assure you this is not an April Fools. Cloudflare does not do that.

It should. I miss the days when tech was interesting and fun.

Even Steve Jobs, for all his later-day revisionist hard-assed reputation, enjoyed the occasional Easter egg, inside joke, or April Fool's joke.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by egypturnash »

Closi wrote: post #68
RobotToaster wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue with static sites is they can't do comments.

They can - it’s just more complex. You just put the comments into something like firebase/supabase etc or use one of many off the shelf solutions. Free tier is fine.

"Just" sure is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this sentence.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by input_sh »

RobotToaster wrote: post #59
spankalee wrote: post #50

It's a shame they don't seem to try to address the divide between CMS's and static sites. Most WordPress sites could just be static, but WordPress has a nice editor interface, so they're not - unless you use a SSG plugin. Building that into the core workflow (which I believe Astro supports) and giving users a nice hosted editor that produces a static site would be welcome innovation.

The issue with static sites is they can't do comments.

Astro would call that an island: https://docs.astro.build/en/concepts/islands/

I guess this is our answer to the question of why Cloudflare acquired it in the first place.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by zsoltkacsandi »

FlamingMoe wrote: post #86

A WordPress spiritual successor backed by Cloudflare sounds great in theory, but the headline feature, plugin isolation via Dynamic Workers, only works on Cloudflare's runtime. On any other host it's just a TypeScript CMS without the security model that justifies its existence. Open source but architecturally locked in.

> Open source but architecturally locked in.

You hit the nail on the head.

Cloudflare's new business model is to find popular OSS projects, create a vibe coded alternative that only runs on Cloudflare's infrastructure.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by richbell »

lurkshark wrote: post #109
amiga386 wrote: post #87

> While EmDash aims to be compatible with WordPress functionality, no WordPress code was used to create EmDash. That allows us to license the open source project under the more permissive MIT license. Ha ha, that's really funny timing given the recent launch of Cleanroom As A Service, promising that you can licensewash other peoples' code quickly and easily: https://malus.sh/ I'm not saying they did that, but it's ir…

Malus is (well crafted) satire.

https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/SUVS7G-lets_end_open_...

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by alsetmusic »

reaperducer wrote: post #111
jgrahamc wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can assure you this is not an April Fools. Cloudflare does not do that. This is a real project.

I can assure you this is not an April Fools. Cloudflare does not do that. It should. I miss the days when tech was interesting and fun. Even Steve Jobs, for all his later-day revisionist hard-assed reputation, enjoyed the occasional Easter egg, inside joke, or April Fool's joke.

I hated that shit. I'd load Slashdot and there was no real content or it was difficult to find real news amongst all the crap. It's not funny. It's annoying.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

reaperducer wrote: post #111
jgrahamc wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can assure you this is not an April Fools. Cloudflare does not do that. This is a real project.

I can assure you this is not an April Fools. Cloudflare does not do that. It should. I miss the days when tech was interesting and fun. Even Steve Jobs, for all his later-day revisionist hard-assed reputation, enjoyed the occasional Easter egg, inside joke, or April Fool's joke.

I appreciate a good April Fools joke, I also appreciate CloudFlare's approach of "we're extra serious today, here's some useful stuff for ya"

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Post by rgbrenner »

solarkraft wrote: post #102
rgbrenner wrote: post #77

> Solving scale-to-zero for WordPress hosting platforms > WordPress is not serverless Just not accurate. WordPress doesn't prevent this.. It's up to hosting providers to work on their infra so it can run in a serverless fashion. For example: https://www.agiler.io That's serverless wordpress that scales to zero.. no changes to WordPress, plugins or anything else.. just platform infra.

Last time I checked Wordpress was completely fine living in a couple of PHP files on a webspace. That’s like the pinnacle of „serverless“, is it not?

mysql/mariadb and the shared filesystem requirements are a bit different than what lambda/etc provides. So not really, but it's all solvable clearly.
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