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EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

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Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

#91

I don't think it's the code that makes WordPress valuable. I've been learning WordPress recently and haven't been too impressed with the internals. WordPress is valuable because of the ecosystem and support. I have no doubt that WordPress will still be a thing in ten years. What's the support plan for EmDash? I see commits are mostly from a single developer. E: Oh, I think it's an April fools joke, I'm embarrassed. E…

I can assure you this is not an April Fools. Cloudflare does not do that. This is a real project.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

#93

Impressive and created by agents. Another example for skeptics wondering where the AI apps are.

I think this is too soon to call. No one questions whether AI can build things. We question whether they can build stable things that work as expected and stay online in the long run.

The stability question is real but I think it's framed wrong. The issue isn't whether an agent can write correct code in a single session -- they can, and pretty reliably now. It's whether there's a human with enough understanding of the codebase to debug it when something breaks at 2am.

I run parallel coding agents on my own projects daily. The code they produce is fine. What worries me is the "just ship it" energy where nobody on the team deeply understands what got built. That's not an AI problem, it's been a problem with outsourced codebases forever. AI just makes it faster to accumulate code nobody fully groks.

Cloudflare probably has the engineering depth to maintain this regardless of how it was built. A lot of other teams don't.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

#94
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the joke.

Oh I am slow lol Is this an April fools?

Functional April Fools, the best kind. A couple years ago Eleiko, a weightlifting equipment company did one, the 'Heavy Mug', a 19 poundish steel coffee cup with a handle in the style of a knurled bar, and actually did a limited run of them.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

#98

I don't think it's the code that makes WordPress valuable. I've been learning WordPress recently and haven't been too impressed with the internals. WordPress is valuable because of the ecosystem and support. I have no doubt that WordPress will still be a thing in ten years. What's the support plan for EmDash? I see commits are mostly from a single developer. E: Oh, I think it's an April fools joke, I'm embarrassed. E…

Its impressive work from CF that lots of people in this thread are unsure whether its a joke or not, like a delicately balanced april fools for the hn crowd

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

#99
Convince me this isn’t vibeslop.

If Cloudflare really have radically changed their software development philosophy lately, this would actually be an interesting project, being based on Astro and coming with some APIs for programmatic management.

Them being so happy about the „cost of software development“ and not going very deep into ecosystem, community or project management doesn’t convince me that this is going to be a worthwhile project, even if, unlike their previous vibe coding demos, this one actually works.

Re: EmDash – A spiritual successor to WordPress that solves plugin security

#100
Serious question: Who actually builds stuff on Cloudflare workers? I mean large software projects / services, and not just side projects where the ability to scale-to-zero is perhaps more important than the scale-to-infinity direction. I feel like Cloudflare keeps pushing workers with its full force yet I fail to see the appeal.
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