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U.S. exempts oil industry from protecting Gulf animals, for 'national security'

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Re: U.S. exempts oil industry from protecting Gulf animals, for 'national security'

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Post by JKCalhoun »

atmavatar wrote: post #79
steve-atx-7600 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not the point. The point is if you lose a presidential election to a grifter, most folks are screwed in almost unlimited ways. Don’t lose an election to a grifter. Be more practical when it comes to not losing an election to a grifter next time.

The way you phrase all that underscores the real problem: no one holds the Republican party accountable for their actions. It's the Democrats' responsibility to save us from them, and when the public screws up and grants power to the Republicans again, it's the Democrats' fault and not those who voted in the goons who come in and break things. The Democrats are hardly perfect, and I wish we had something better to op…

You're describing Murc's Law [1].

Until a week or so ago, it was on Wikipedia, but it appears to have been delisted. So here:

[1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=murc%27s+law

Re: U.S. exempts oil industry from protecting Gulf animals, for 'national security'

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Post by triceratops »

glitchc wrote: post #107
JackYoustra wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would Trump have to do for you to not give him the benefit of the doubt from that point forward?

Okay, since you asked (unpopular, but I have karma to burn, c'est la vie): This myopic focus on Trump ignores the real issue: Environmentalism is a secular religion, a theocracy, a dogma. Like any religion it employs circular reasoning to justify its existence, namely stemming from this assumption that nature is sacred, vulnerable and deserving of our protection. This faulty assumption is treated as a self-evident ta…

> Those who cut down trees...out-lasted those who didn't

Haiti and the Dominican Republic have something to say about that.

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Post by Henchman21 »

stingraycharles wrote: post #88
unethical_ban wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BILLION? My god, I didn't know we produced that much. I've known for a while that our refineries are tuned to lighter "sweet crude" than what Canada or US produces, and long have I thought that a more benevolent, heavy-handed government should incentivize our domestic industry to handle our own oil for national security.

From what I understand, the US currently produces more oil than any other country has ever produced.

Its what moves the biggest military the world has ever seen

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Post by arnonymous »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #115
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #47

2028: "To be secure as a nation we need to stamp out all dissent against the government and require all citizens to swear unyielding loyalty to the President."

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Except that was actually the policy all around the world and not unique to the US administration at the time. So not sure what your point is, time to move on...

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #115
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #47

2028: "To be secure as a nation we need to stamp out all dissent against the government and require all citizens to swear unyielding loyalty to the President."

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What is the purpose of this comment? Genuinely trying to understand.

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Post by Sabinus »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #115
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #47

2028: "To be secure as a nation we need to stamp out all dissent against the government and require all citizens to swear unyielding loyalty to the President."

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I don't understand why this conspiratorial belief has persisted. The restrictions ended. They happened worldwide. They were clearly for the safety of the public and the functioning of the health system during a novel virus epidemic.

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Post by array_key_first »

glitchc wrote: post #107
JackYoustra wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would Trump have to do for you to not give him the benefit of the doubt from that point forward?

Okay, since you asked (unpopular, but I have karma to burn, c'est la vie): This myopic focus on Trump ignores the real issue: Environmentalism is a secular religion, a theocracy, a dogma. Like any religion it employs circular reasoning to justify its existence, namely stemming from this assumption that nature is sacred, vulnerable and deserving of our protection. This faulty assumption is treated as a self-evident ta…

Even if you think environmentalism is stupid, that doesn't mean being anti-renewable or pro-coal makes any sense at all.

Renewables are also good economically, because they're... Wait for it... Renewable. That's a big deal.

Trump pushing clean coal and knee-capping renewables is bad for our economy. He is literally hurting the American people just to show the finger to liberals. If that sounds stupid, that's because it is.

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