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CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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> Sandra Scott, MD, CEO of the One Brooklyn Health, a small hospital facing tight margins, agreed with this line of thinking, according to Crain’s. Does this CEO of a small hospital realize that their hospital will take the legal responsibility if there's no doctor to sue for malpractice?

Hospitals already usually pay for malpractice insurance on behalf of the physicians.

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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> Sandra Scott, MD, CEO of the One Brooklyn Health, a small hospital facing tight margins, agreed with this line of thinking, according to Crain’s. Does this CEO of a small hospital realize that their hospital will take the legal responsibility if there's no doctor to sue for malpractice?

This works in the other direction too - a human mises a cancer, that 10 out of 10 radiology models say it's there with 99% confidence. That hospital will lose in court for negligence.

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How about we started replacing all companies that are replacing humans with AI using AI as well? As they decided to one-way participate in the economy (suck the money, not give anything back), we can make sure the one-way trend is done with rapidly. The cost of running a company will approach zero in the future. We now have massively profitable companies that are making record layoffs; something doesn't compute.

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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When can we start replacing CEOs with AI?

I don't think AI is ready to replace CEOs, but it would make a good assistant for an H-1B CEO.

Not sure AI is ready to replace anyone but that doesn't seem to be the road block.

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> "and is “actually better than human beings,” he told the audience.

“For women who aren’t considered high risk, if the test comes back negative, it’s wrong only about 3 times out of 10,000,” Lubarsky said. "

What's the false negative rate for human beings? And what about women that are considered high risk? Is it better or worse?

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Brother-in-law graduated med school in the early 90s and has been a practicing ER physician since. We discussed this recently and he related that his advisors told him not to go into radiology back in the late 80s because the assumption was that computers were going to take over the field. He's not too far away from retirement and it's only now that we're starting to see some signs of this prediction from 30+ years a…

The issue with radiologists is that on average they are able to spot ~35% of correct diagnoses, while the world's best radiologists ~45%. AI might get us to ~50% which is ~15% better than an average radiologist (who still needs to review it).

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Here we go again. There's something about radiology that makes it the perfect bait for nerd sniping. I guess it's probably the misunderstanding that it is exclusively pattern recognition.

Here are my opinions, after a 20 year career as a diagnostic radiologist, and 45 years as a hobbyist computer programmer

1. There are no products currently on the market that can replace a radiologist.

2. If you can't fully and completely replace radiologists, you will still need them around in significant numbers.

3. Because of the infinite variation in human anatomy, physiology, and pathology, it is my opinion that AGI will be required to fully and completely replace radiologists.

4. Once AI is strong enough to replace radiologists, it will be strong enough to replace every other job as well.

5. Based on current RVU compensation models, any cost savings achieved by hospitals replacing radiologists with AI will quickly be lost by reimbursements being adjusted down. There is no way an insurance company will pay the same for an AI interpretation and a human interpretation.

6. There are significant unanswered medicolegal questions that will need to be addressed before AI can operate unsupervised.

In conclusion, I will work as a human radiologist until I retire in 10 years

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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>amid rising demand for imaging Okay so demand for imaging is up, so we should GET RID of the radiologists? How about we AUGMENT them with AI so that they can do their job better and faster? Why does it need to be either or?

Currently they are augmenting them with Indian radiologists and just sign off whatever they found.

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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I figured this was “CEO said a thing” journalism [1], but buried in the last paragraph is a real scorcher: > “Undeniable proof that confidently uninformed hospital administrators are a danger to patients: easily duped by AI companies that are nowhere near capable of providing patient care,” [Radiologist Dr.] Suhail told Radiology Business. “Any attempt to implement AI-only reads would immediately result in patient ha…

If hospitals are so concerned about cutting costs, getting sued is probably worse. However they are all insured against malpractice. I would be careful about insurers who could default if they find too many malpractice claims.
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