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CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Post by mrtksn »

Why AI is able to do everything except CEO and social media hype up work? Why engineers and doctors still need CEOs to do their job?

From the votes I see that this is unpopular opinion but apparently there are close to 400 million companies in the world, of those 60K are publicly traded.

I am sure that there's enough data to train top notch CEO on this, since they are required to keep records all the time and give speeches for living.

Surely privately owned companies where the CEO is also the owner wouldn't like it but replacing the CEO with an AI in institutions with professional CEOs seems overdue. The radiologist AI certainly will be much better served by AI CEO.

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

mrtksn wrote: post #12

Why AI is able to do everything except CEO and social media hype up work? Why engineers and doctors still need CEOs to do their job? From the votes I see that this is unpopular opinion but apparently there are close to 400 million companies in the world, of those 60K are publicly traded. I am sure that there's enough data to train top notch CEO on this, since they are required to keep records all the time and give sp…

With a little extra irony, I’m honestly certain our HR dept could easily be replaced with AI to far better effect. They would surely disagree.

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Post by bradreaves2 »

I figured this was “CEO said a thing” journalism [1], but buried in the last paragraph is a real scorcher:

> “Undeniable proof that confidently uninformed hospital administrators are a danger to patients: easily duped by AI companies that are nowhere near capable of providing patient care,” [Radiologist Dr.] Suhail told Radiology Business. “Any attempt to implement AI-only reads would immediately result in patient harm and death, and only someone with zero understanding of radiology would say something so naive. But in some sense, they’re correct: Hospitals are happy to cut costs even if it means patient harm, as long as it’s legal.”

[1] https://karlbode.com/ceo-said-a-thing-journalism/

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Post by catapart »

cbg0 wrote: post #8

> Sandra Scott, MD, CEO of the One Brooklyn Health, a small hospital facing tight margins, agreed with this line of thinking, according to Crain’s. Does this CEO of a small hospital realize that their hospital will take the legal responsibility if there's no doctor to sue for malpractice?

Speaking of which... when people talk about "replacing" humans with AI, it makes me wonder if there's some kind of law we can push for that says "if you are part of the chain of command that signs off on AI being able to make final determinations, and that causes legal issues, you will be legally liable in place of the AI, since computers cannot be liable." Let a jury decide who, in the chain, bears what burden, case by case, but provide for prima facie liability for all parties in the chain, when a valid suit is tried. I want to see how strong the push is for AI when it's the CEO's personal money on the line.

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Post by luma »

Brother-in-law graduated med school in the early 90s and has been a practicing ER physician since. We discussed this recently and he related that his advisors told him not to go into radiology back in the late 80s because the assumption was that computers were going to take over the field. He's not too far away from retirement and it's only now that we're starting to see some signs of this prediction from 30+ years ago.

As others in the thread note, there are plenty of concerns around operational use of AI solutions in the medical space, but radiology has a much larger target painted on it than other practices as a fair portion of the job (but certainly not all!) can boil down to high-skill pattern recognition from visual inputs. The current list of AI-enabled devices going through FDA approval is public, more than 3/4 of the list are targeting radiology use cases: https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/software-medical-device-...

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