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Re: I quit. The clankers won

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post #37

rants about AI from people who have already decided up front to never actually attempt to use the tools (which seems to be the case here from the post and the other one it links) are not really providing any value to the discourse. There is nothing new about using machinery to automate boring / repetitive tasks, including the wall of resistance that comes up. But it should be clear that genuinely useful tooling and a…

You are a good employee! Python people always shill for their employer's opinions.

Re: I quit. The clankers won

#64
Can’t we just sabotage AI? We have the means for sure (speed light communication across the globe). Like, at least for once in the history of software engineering we should get together like other professionals do. Sadly our high salaries and perks won’t make the task easy for many

- spend tons of tokens on useless stuff at work (so your boss knows it’s not worth it)

- be very picky about AI generated PRs: add tons of comments, slow down the merge, etc.

Re: I quit. The clankers won

#65
> The giant plagiarism machines have already stolen everything. Copyright is dead. Licenses are washed away in clean rooms.

Isn't this what the free software movement wanted? Code available to all?

Yes, code is cheap now. That's the new reality. Your value lies elsewhere.

You can lament the loss of your usefulness as a horse buggy mechanic, or you can adapt your knowledge and experience and use it towards those newfangled automobiles.

Re: I quit. The clankers won

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> The only winning move is not to play.

Alas I think tech crowd have collectively painted humanity into a corner where not playing is not an option anymore.

The combination of having subverted copyright and enabled cheap machine replication kills large swaths of creativity. At least as a viable living. One can still do many things on an artisanal level certainly and as excited as I am about AI it’s hard not to see it as a big L for humanity’s creative output

Re: I quit. The clankers won

#67
post #26

Just because they invented cars doesn't mean you stop jogging.

They did make it very hard for people to do anything else but use a car in many, many places though...

In the US, perhaps, which has had perhaps the bulk of its growth post-automobiles.

Re: I quit. The clankers won

#68

> The giant plagiarism machines have already stolen everything. Copyright is dead. Licenses are washed away in clean rooms. Isn't this what the free software movement wanted? Code available to all? Yes, code is cheap now. That's the new reality. Your value lies elsewhere. You can lament the loss of your usefulness as a horse buggy mechanic, or you can adapt your knowledge and experience and use it towards those newfa…

Progress is good. But why on earth should we support Anthropic/OpenAI/etc? What the planet needs is less multibillion corporations, not more

Re: I quit. The clankers won

#69

> The giant plagiarism machines have already stolen everything. Copyright is dead. Licenses are washed away in clean rooms. Isn't this what the free software movement wanted? Code available to all? Yes, code is cheap now. That's the new reality. Your value lies elsewhere. You can lament the loss of your usefulness as a horse buggy mechanic, or you can adapt your knowledge and experience and use it towards those newfa…

No, the free software movement wants that the source code of the software you use be available to you to modify it if you wish. AI does not necessarily do that.

Re: I quit. The clankers won

#70

> The giant plagiarism machines have already stolen everything. Copyright is dead. Licenses are washed away in clean rooms. Isn't this what the free software movement wanted? Code available to all? Yes, code is cheap now. That's the new reality. Your value lies elsewhere. You can lament the loss of your usefulness as a horse buggy mechanic, or you can adapt your knowledge and experience and use it towards those newfa…

Progress is good. But why on earth should we support Anthropic/OpenAI/etc? What the planet needs is less multibillion corporations, not more

You don't have to. Just like you don't have to support Amazon for web services and file stores.

Or Oracle for databases.

Or Microsoft for operating systems.

Or DEC for computers.

There are perfectly good open source LLMs and agents out there, which are getting better by the day (especially after the recent leak!)

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