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Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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Why do you need an app? https://takeout.google.com/

Takeout always fails for me, with ~11TB of data in Google Drive.

Why would you use takeout to download Google Drive contents when syncing to your local computer is its entire purpose?

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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The terrifying part is how much one can be dependent on services from a single company, that may at some point simply decide to not do business with you. Whether they have good reason for that is secondary. I moved away from relying on Google a while ago when I noticed, that I have zero recourse in case something happens. Turned out to be a sensible decision. I still use my google account, but only for things I would…

For this reason I’m as diversified as possible while still maintaining some level of convenience

I try and not depend on a single vendor for everything and I don’t use the same email for all services - with auto email forwarding and password managers there’s just no reason to

My services are spread across Apple, Google, and other third party services for other email, storage, music, etc

I’m trying to think of what it would be like if this happened to me and it’d be annoying for sure, but not catastrophic

I do recommend having your own domain for email for certain accounts - I don’t do it for all services because sometimes it’s just easier to say email@gmail.com vs risking typos etc with a custom domain

I still use main stream services of course, I’m not that hardcore and like convenience like I said, but so what I can to avoid these types of headaches

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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God, this is a real nightmare. I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum, self-hosting their entire online world. Google should not be able to do this to them. No one should have to rely on trying to whip up public mobs on Reddit or HN to get Google to give them access to their own fre…

Are you not aware of a million of dedicated competitive services for each of this to jump to "self-hosting" as the only alternative?

> All my emails, all my documents saved in Google Drive.

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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post #40

God, this is a real nightmare. I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum, self-hosting their entire online world. Google should not be able to do this to them. No one should have to rely on trying to whip up public mobs on Reddit or HN to get Google to give them access to their own fre…

I think raising public awareness is a great escalation channel for severe (and complicated) cases that require bureaucratic help from senior people. We do this for other things (like screaming fire, finding lost kids, or finding organ donors)

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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The terrifying part is how much one can be dependent on services from a single company, that may at some point simply decide to not do business with you. Whether they have good reason for that is secondary. I moved away from relying on Google a while ago when I noticed, that I have zero recourse in case something happens. Turned out to be a sensible decision. I still use my google account, but only for things I would…

I thankfully learned that lesson about twenty years go. Google had a product that allowed you to park domains with them for ad insertion to generate some revenue. Owning over 400 domains at the time I though, why not? The process through which you parked the domains with Google entailed loading a file with the list of domains, after which each one would, in turn, be approved or denied. All 400+ domains were approved.…

> I would never do business with Google. All I use from them is search. That's it. Nothing else.

Given that's their main business and they are likely to graveyard whatever domain penny business you've got burnt by anyway, you're still doing a lot of business with them

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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If I ever become a life coach for small business owners, I don't know how I can recommend GSuite. Horror stories of "I've lost everything I had with them" are so plentiful I've stopped saving them. Seems like even Microsoft is not as bad.

The description by OP in comments like https://old.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/1s92fql/my_s... seems to strongly imply that all the accounts were unconnected in a GSuite sense, and they are being slowly recursively banned by Google based on indirect connections like recovery emails or co-presence on a device.

I don't see any reasonable way they could have saved themselves besides something crazy like requiring every family member use a different feudal lord - one person gets Google, one person gets Apple, one poor guy gets Microsoft...

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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post #44
post #40

God, this is a real nightmare. I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum, self-hosting their entire online world. Google should not be able to do this to them. No one should have to rely on trying to whip up public mobs on Reddit or HN to get Google to give them access to their own fre…

Are you not aware of a million of dedicated competitive services for each of this to jump to "self-hosting" as the only alternative? > All my emails, all my documents saved in Google Drive.

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