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Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by oefrha »

Any project with Claude’s signature misaligned ASCII diagram just screams DON’T USE to me. If you can’t even bother to read your damn generated README, how do I know you have QC’ed anything else? At the very least supported features claimed in README / on website could be totally fake, which is extremely common among all the vibed Show HNs.

https://github.com/Nahuel990/ministack/blob/a1b1d20a27d2238d...

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by hexedpackets »

giobox wrote: post #2

Ugh, I hadn't heard the news about the LocalStack licensing changes. I had some great results building AWS services for local dev as well as CI/CD and testing in GH actions with LocalStack in previous jobs. I secretly always hoped Amazon would buy out LocalStack and make it the official free local development environment for AWS work, but I guess it probably would reduce revenues spent on AWS based dev and test envir…

> The compatibility with the AWS CLI was mostly excellent in my experiences.

Interesting, I've had the opposite experience. Every single AWS service I've ever tried to build tests around with LocalStack has run into compatibility issues. Usually something works in LocalStack but fails when it hits the real endpoint.

I guess the CLI itself has mostly worked, its more the LocalStack service not behaving the way the real service is documented/works.

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by evil-olive »

nnucera wrote: post #13
staticassertion wrote: post #6

I really don't see how any clone is going to manage to do what localstack couldn't - maintain compatibility with tons of AWS services while not getting paid for it. If this were viable, why would it not have worked before? The only things I can think of are that perhaps LocalStack was just a mess of a codebase that couldn't maintain velocity or attract contributors, or it just failed to steward new contributors or so…

Hello! We won't have the broad coverage that Localstack has... we're not aiming to be the "next Localstack"... just want to keep the core services that were available for free in the LS community up to date. If you’re looking for larger services like MWAA, sorry, but we won't be supporting them.... Most core AWS services don't receive many updates anyway (their APIs don’t change drastically or frequently)

> We won't have the broad coverage that Localstack has... we're not aiming to be the "next Localstack"

you should tell that to the LLM that writes your website:

> MiniStack is your free, MIT-licensed drop-in replacement.

is it a drop-in replacement, or not?

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

#27

Post by nnucera »

evil-olive wrote: post #26
nnucera wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hello! We won't have the broad coverage that Localstack has... we're not aiming to be the "next Localstack"... just want to keep the core services that were available for free in the LS community up to date. If you’re looking for larger services like MWAA, sorry, but we won't be supporting them.... Most core AWS services don't receive many updates anyway (their APIs don’t change drastically or frequently)

> We won't have the broad coverage that Localstack has... we're not aiming to be the "next Localstack" you should tell that to the LLM that writes your website: > MiniStack is your free, MIT-licensed drop-in replacement. is it a drop-in replacement, or not?

If you’re looking for a Localstack alternative, it’s often because you were using the community tier... In that case, Ministack can serve as a drop-in replacement... otherwise, the price reduction in LS might already address your needs

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by drzaiusx11 »

giobox wrote: post #2

Ugh, I hadn't heard the news about the LocalStack licensing changes. I had some great results building AWS services for local dev as well as CI/CD and testing in GH actions with LocalStack in previous jobs. I secretly always hoped Amazon would buy out LocalStack and make it the official free local development environment for AWS work, but I guess it probably would reduce revenues spent on AWS based dev and test envir…

Unclear what LocalStack's end game is tbh. My company has an active enterprise license atm so their recent changes won't affect me in the short term at least. As of writing I'm still a happy user of LocalStack. Disappointed with their overall direction, but I hold no ill will and I'm sure they had their reasons. I wish them luck.

Hopefully this change was not just an short term attempt to lock in current enterprise customers by shoring up existing income streams. That'll only work in the VERY short term.

It's not difficult to forsee the inevitable customer drain to free competitors or private one-shots easily produced by genai from publicly available AWS SDK code. Maybe they're already feeling that pressure and that's all this change is. I hope not.

AFAICT, they have no appreciable moat to retain customers long term. For example, I have absolutely no interest in their "Pods" or even their console UI, so thosr aren't keeping me around forever. For their sakes I hope they're still shopping themselves around and didn't take some VC poison pill with preconditions for killing the community edition. Really It's anyone's guess though.

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by drzaiusx11 »

hexedpackets wrote: post #24
giobox wrote: post #2

Ugh, I hadn't heard the news about the LocalStack licensing changes. I had some great results building AWS services for local dev as well as CI/CD and testing in GH actions with LocalStack in previous jobs. I secretly always hoped Amazon would buy out LocalStack and make it the official free local development environment for AWS work, but I guess it probably would reduce revenues spent on AWS based dev and test envir…

> The compatibility with the AWS CLI was mostly excellent in my experiences. Interesting, I've had the opposite experience. Every single AWS service I've ever tried to build tests around with LocalStack has run into compatibility issues. Usually something works in LocalStack but fails when it hits the real endpoint. I guess the CLI itself has mostly worked, its more the LocalStack service not behaving the way the rea…

Got any concrete examples? I've been happily using LocalStack for roughly a decade now and haven't run into a single compatibility issue, aside from the obvious missing of net new services for the first N months after AWS product launches. Things like AppConfig, etc, but those gaps got filled in time. They clearly prioritized the 95pct/most used features of each service first though. There's a long tail in some AWS services, as one might expect. I've never used any of the more esoteric AWS feature sets of any of their services. Those are the things that tend to end up deprecated. So requiring those long tail featur sets may be the simple answer to having very different experiences.

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by sebmellen »

oefrha wrote: post #23

Any project with Claude’s signature misaligned ASCII diagram just screams DON’T USE to me. If you can’t even bother to read your damn generated README, how do I know you have QC’ed anything else? At the very least supported features claimed in README / on website could be totally fake, which is extremely common among all the vibed Show HNs. https://github.com/Nahuel990/ministack/blob/a1b1d20a27d2238d...

We live in the golden age of slop. It seems a surprisingly small number of people have the visceral AI disgust response.
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