Then get it off my laptop
Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
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Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#152The section titled > IMPORTANT DISCLOSURES & WARNINGS Tells us: > You may stop using Copilot at any time. That's an odd thing to include in a ToS.
Were you able to stop using Adobe software any anytime before they got in trouble for making cancelling so hard?
> Were you able to stop using Adobe software any anytime before they got in trouble for making cancelling so hard?
To be fair, "stop using" does not automatically imply "stop paying for a subscription".
Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, there's your rationale as to why AI cannot replace you. When sh!t hits the fan, Anthropic will immediately point to this clause. Who knows, maybe a court would see it as valid. Meanwhile, your customer (and thus, your management) is looking for someone to blame for excrement making contact with the impellers. And that someone's gonna be you.
Employees often make mistakes that cost companies thousands of dollars. And there's no shortage of stories where employees cost companies tens of thousands and millions. When a construction guy messes up measurements and thousands of dollars of work has the be removed and redone, no one thinks of taking the employee to court. Why would you want to take your Ai to court?
When the construction worker messes up a job that then causes injury or damages the property they absolutely get sued. The state can even get involved if the mistake is deemed criminal negligence.
In your example the owners will often take the construction company or small business owner to court. Most trades people negotiate and redo the work for free or much reduced cost to avoid this.
In office settings if you expose PII you will likely be fired.
Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only thing "clear" about that License agreement is it contradicts all their other marketing about Copilot. So either that document is fraudulent or everyone else at Microsoft is committing fraud daily. Examples from the first search result: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/microsoft-365-copi... Support page with ~25 tutorials provided by Microsoft about how to "Create a document with Copilot" or "Create…
Did Microsoft force you to follow the tutorials and use CoPilot for business?
By advertising Copilot as capable of doing something they are guaranteeing the product is capable of it.
Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some 20 years ago there was a story about a guy who was opening a bank account. The bank sent the contract, the guy ameneded it with things like "you will give le unlimited credit that I do not need to repay" (if my memory serves me right). He signed, sent both copies, got his bank signed copy back Went yo the bank, the bank sued him, he won (the judge told the bank that when you play dirty games you sometimes loose)…
https://www.rt.com/business/man-outsmarts-banks-wins-court-2... I can never find an article that mentions the final outcome.
It is on Wikipedia under T-Bank, this seems the best source that announces the resolution: https://web.archive.org/web/20220905212700/https://www.tinko...
Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#156So is Windows.
Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, there's your rationale as to why AI cannot replace you. When sh!t hits the fan, Anthropic will immediately point to this clause. Who knows, maybe a court would see it as valid. Meanwhile, your customer (and thus, your management) is looking for someone to blame for excrement making contact with the impellers. And that someone's gonna be you.
Well, OpenAI doesn't seem to have clauses like this. Europeans are allowed to use it for commercial purposes under the ToS. (But check it yourself, I'm not a lawyer). I reimplemented my startup idea from scratch with Codex a few months ago, just for peace of mind.
Honest question, what peace of mind does this give you? If my idea could be implemented from scratch by one of these agentic harnesses I would be concerned about the viability of it more than anything.
Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the Uk there seem to be separate commercial and consumer terms. In the UK the consumer terms say its subject to English law and the courts of the UK jurisdiction you live in. The commercial terms say that in the UK, Switzerland and the EEA there will be binding arbitration by an arbitrator in Ireland appointed by the President of the Law Society of Ireland.
The UK commercial terms explicitly do not apply to individual user plans. The US also has a separate terms sheet for commercial plans. We are comparing like for like - an individual user using a Claude Pro subscription. A US user can use it for commercial use and be in compliance with the terms, the UK user cannot.
> A US user can use it for commercial use and be in compliance with the terms, the UK user cannot.
But why? My guess is the liability exposure is what they’re trying to control. So you probably can if you’re ok with no liability. It’s still noncompliant to how they wrote it but I would guess it’s the motivation. Unless they really just want to force the UK to pay for all commercial uses, which I suppose is possible.
Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#159As far as I can tell, this is only for the free personal plan, not any of the business offerings (ie not Copilot for M365) and Github Copilot is under a separate set of terms. “These Terms don’t apply to Microsoft 365 Copilot apps or services unless that specific app or service says that these Terms apply.” Think of Copilot being a suite of different products under the same overall banner and it starts to make (a bit…
Not really since the clause in full is "Copilot is for entertainment purposes only. It can make mistakes, and it may not work as intended. Don’t rely on Copilot for important advice. Use Copilot at your own risk." Are you saying that the business version cannot make mistakes and can be relied upon for important advice?
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Re: Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
#160Anthropic does a somewhat similar thing. If you visit their ToS (the one for Max/Pro plans) from a European IP address, they replace one section with this: Non-commercial use only. You agree not to use our Services for any commercial or business purposes and we (and our Providers) have no liability to you for any loss of profit, loss of business, business interruption, or loss of business opportunity. It's funny that…
Software in general has disclaimed any warranties or fitness for purpose for as long as I can remember. This is nothing new.
That's not what this is, though.