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Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

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Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

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Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

Non-removable battery is a choice which a lot of people are OK with. If the battery doesn't deteriorate, at least. No LTE doesn't affect people on non-LTE networks (eg all of Ireland) and isn't a deal breaker for people who mostly connect via wireless (eg all those people who are happy enough with highly restricted data plans). If those two things contribute to the attractive price and/or design then for a big group…

> No LTE doesn't affect people on non-LTE networks (eg all of Ireland)

Eg, all of T-Mobile, which is the only official launch partner for the Nexus 4 in the US.

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an iPhone user (4S) that all sounds pretty standard! On a more serious note, I don't understand all the fuss about LTE. IIRC it's something like 20Mbps in practice, which is faster than most Internet connections in the US. What is the use case for such bandwidth on a phone? YouTube already plays just fine with HSPA+.

I went from HSPA+ on a Galaxy Nexus (AT&T) to LTE on an iPhone 5 (Verizon), and the difference is very noticeable, at least in my area of the US. HSPA+ was alright but still felt like a cellular data connection. LTE feels just like I'm on a fast wifi connection. It's probably the lower latency that makes it seem like wifi, not just the faster data transfer speeds.

On a counter anecdote, as I've mentioned in the past, my Nexus S on T-Mobile with "regular" HSPA gets faster "4G" internet speeds than my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon using LTE, and latency seems roughly the same.

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#133
post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That T-Mobile $30 plan is unlimited data, just throttled after 5GB

Plus, it's DC-HSPA @ 42Mbps. Which has been shown to beat LTE speeds in some areas.

could you provide a link to this plan?

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#134

Not a single mention of how it compares to an iPhone. I know it's androidpolice.com, but it's weird to have such a long review without making ANY comparisons to the most-popular phone in the world....

Why everyone has to compare to the iPhone? like it were a model to follow. It's like the Apple fans feel butt-hurt when someone it's stealing their hype. You can't do more than superficial comparisons, they're totally different experiences and app ecosystems.

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#135

Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

Well the difference is, you can just buy a different Android phone which is just as powerful but doesn't have these 'defects'. The choice is yours. With an iPhone, you either buy one "with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back" or you don't buy an iPhone at all.

But then how will I find a phone that doesn't have crap-ware preinstalled by the carrier by default, and allows a user to update to the latest version of the OS without going through the carrier?

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#136

Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

As an iPhone user (4S) that all sounds pretty standard! On a more serious note, I don't understand all the fuss about LTE. IIRC it's something like 20Mbps in practice, which is faster than most Internet connections in the US. What is the use case for such bandwidth on a phone? YouTube already plays just fine with HSPA+.

Wow 6 replies here and nobody has specifically called out latency.

I have a verizon LTE device that I tether with from time to time, and the ping times I get to my home server are insane, usually around 20ms. When I tether on my HSPA galaxy nexus, ping times are usually around 100+ms.

Now this could be verizon vs t-mobile and not LTE vs HSPA (or some mix). Verizon is the only/main LTE-supporting provider right now, so LTE and Verizon are conflated in my mind, for better or for worse.

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#137

Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

As an iPhone user (4S) that all sounds pretty standard! On a more serious note, I don't understand all the fuss about LTE. IIRC it's something like 20Mbps in practice, which is faster than most Internet connections in the US. What is the use case for such bandwidth on a phone? YouTube already plays just fine with HSPA+.

I achieved a 56mbps lte download on AT&T in Houston. Average has ranged from 10-30 though

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#138

Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

Remember, outside of the US LTE is essentially a non-feature, so there are lots of people who don't actually care. Then there are the people who could use LTE, but find their current network fast enough.

I live in a place with no LTE, but honestly if it were to degrade battery life I'd rather live without it: faster network is always nice, but the current one is fast enough.

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#139

Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

As an iPhone user (4S) that all sounds pretty standard! On a more serious note, I don't understand all the fuss about LTE. IIRC it's something like 20Mbps in practice, which is faster than most Internet connections in the US. What is the use case for such bandwidth on a phone? YouTube already plays just fine with HSPA+.

LTE is seriously fast, seriously low latency and makes the experience of using the internet (which is pretty much everything a phone does) much better. A slow connection is frustrating, a high latency connection makes me just not bother, but try LTE and you'll see what all the fuss is about.

Use case is everything you currently do, but faster.

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#140
post #138

Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

Remember, outside of the US LTE is essentially a non-feature, so there are lots of people who don't actually care. Then there are the people who could use LTE, but find their current network fast enough. I live in a place with no LTE, but honestly if it were to degrade battery life I'd rather live without it: faster network is always nice, but the current one is fast enough.

Due to faster download times it can apparently actually _boost_ battery life in some web surfing scenarios.

Not that it matters if your network has no LTE.

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