My employer does not allow me using software with entertainment function on company hardver.
Now what?! Do I have to uninstall Windows?
Microsoft: Copilot is for entertainment purposes only
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#102FYI: This is only for the "Cortana replacement" Copilot, not the other Copilots. This language doesn't appear in GitHub Copilot's Consumer Agreement, for example.
Maybe they shouldn't name everything Copilot.
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#103I can't help but be reminded of Joe Pesci in Goodfellas:
"Funny how? I mean, funny like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to fuckin’ amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how?"
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
My two cents is that if it didn't, 'I didn't know that was illegal/breach of contract' would be a valid legal defense. Although intentionally saying things that contradict whats in the contract might be legally objectionable.
When the contract is purposefully obtuse and hard to understand, that should be a valid legal defense. When it's huge, falls upon people that can't justify a lawyer, and keeps changing all the time, one shouldn't even need to claim it. It should be automatically invalid.
Contract language is obtuse and hard to understand precisely because of previous challenges over meaning. There are stock phrasings and clauses in contracts that have established (by precident) legal meanings. That's why contracts seem to be walls of boilerplate.
If you just wrote them in "plain language" there would be far too much ambiguity and arguing over what was really meant or implied or agreed to.
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#105That one line is…doing A LOT of legal work.
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#106I can't help but be reminded of Joe Pesci in Goodfellas: "Funny how? I mean, funny like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to fuckin’ amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how?"
I've read the claim that he ad-libbed a lot of that too.
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#107If it is for entertainment purposes only, why am I not laughing when I use it?
Some people find being whipped while bound in leather to be entertaining.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ha out of curiosity I loaded that same consumer terms URL on both a USA and a UK VPN exit node - sure enough, the UK terms inject that extra clause you quoted banning commercial usage that is not present for USA users. diff of the changes between US and UK: https://www.diffchecker.com/BtqVrR9p/ There's the usual expected legal boilerplate differences. However, the UK version injects the additional clause at line 134…
In the Uk there seem to be separate commercial and consumer terms. In the UK the consumer terms say its subject to English law and the courts of the UK jurisdiction you live in. The commercial terms say that in the UK, Switzerland and the EEA there will be binding arbitration by an arbitrator in Ireland appointed by the President of the Law Society of Ireland.
The UK commercial terms explicitly do not apply to individual user plans. The US also has a separate terms sheet for commercial plans.
We are comparing like for like - an individual user using a Claude Pro subscription. A US user can use it for commercial use and be in compliance with the terms, the UK user cannot.
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#109Anthropic does a somewhat similar thing. If you visit their ToS (the one for Max/Pro plans) from a European IP address, they replace one section with this: Non-commercial use only. You agree not to use our Services for any commercial or business purposes and we (and our Providers) have no liability to you for any loss of profit, loss of business, business interruption, or loss of business opportunity. It's funny that…
Well, there's your rationale as to why AI cannot replace you. When sh!t hits the fan, Anthropic will immediately point to this clause. Who knows, maybe a court would see it as valid. Meanwhile, your customer (and thus, your management) is looking for someone to blame for excrement making contact with the impellers. And that someone's gonna be you.
But you have limited funds to take in a lawsuit realistically the worst they can do is fire you, it's not like being blameable somehow makes you more valuable.
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#110Lawyers are playing Calvinball again. I have no idea why the law finds this kind of argumentation compelling. "I clearly intentionally deceived, but I stashed some bullshit legalese into a document no one will read so my deception is completely OK."
Some 20 years ago there was a story about a guy who was opening a bank account. The bank sent the contract, the guy ameneded it with things like "you will give le unlimited credit that I do not need to repay" (if my memory serves me right). He signed, sent both copies, got his bank signed copy back Went yo the bank, the bank sued him, he won (the judge told the bank that when you play dirty games you sometimes loose)…
https://www.rt.com/business/man-outsmarts-banks-wins-court-2...
I can never find an article that mentions the final outcome.