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Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

#32
post #6

Don’t work for evil companies.

> Don’t work for evil companies.

I'm certainly not a fan of Oracle (or the wider scale damage the Ellisons have been doing), but I also can't bring myself to be so flippant when an action this large is going to cause untold amounts of personal tragedies.

See, for example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/employeesOfOracle/comments/1s8m58p/...

Today this unfortunate guy, tomorrow perhaps me.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

#34
post #2

More victims of AI. Not actually of "AI is replacing jobs", more "oh shit we are spending too much and the product isn't good enough for us to ever make a return on our absurd over-investment".

I don't think its that easy. Look at their employee numbers over the years: (ai generated): Oracle Corporation Employee Count (2010 - 2025) Legend: Each '' represents approximately 4,000 employees. Year | Employees ------------------------------------------------------------------ 2010 | (105,000) 2011 | (108,000) 2012 | (115,000) 2013 | (120,000) 2014 | (122,000) 2015 | (132,000) 2016 | (136,000) 2017 | (138,000) 20…

You need to pair hc with revenue, otherwise this data tells only one story, hc growth.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

#36
post #6

Don’t work for evil companies.

I tried to do this out of undergrad (graduated last year). Many companies do both good and bad things to me, some more good than bad. The "best of the best" companies to me require many years of experience and are still competitive. I didn't really want an entry level job at an "evil" company, so I'm going to go do a PhD (in something unrelated to my original interest in operating systems, as I don't want to be a 30k/yr automaton part of Meta's R&D machine).

My point is: it's very, very, very hard to do this, especially with my set of interests (lots of OS work is in the datacenter, which leads to jobs with hyperscalers; I consider many of those companies evil). I'm trying. It will probably make my QoL worse for some time, and I'll probably give up eventually.

Also, evil is undefined in some sense. Is it wrong to do something "good" at a company that has an "evil" aspect?

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

#37
post #11

It feels like Oracle has made some massive strategic missteps in the past year. I’m curious if they can turn it around.

What "massive strategic missteps"? They continue to attract cloud customers coming from Amazon, Google and Microsoft.

Citations?

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

#38
post #2

More victims of AI. Not actually of "AI is replacing jobs", more "oh shit we are spending too much and the product isn't good enough for us to ever make a return on our absurd over-investment".

I don't think its that easy. Look at their employee numbers over the years: (ai generated): Oracle Corporation Employee Count (2010 - 2025) Legend: Each '' represents approximately 4,000 employees. Year | Employees ------------------------------------------------------------------ 2010 | (105,000) 2011 | (108,000) 2012 | (115,000) 2013 | (120,000) 2014 | (122,000) 2015 | (132,000) 2016 | (136,000) 2017 | (138,000) 20…

> They clearly did something crazy at corona

They acquired Cerner, which had ~30k employees.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think its that easy. Look at their employee numbers over the years: (ai generated): Oracle Corporation Employee Count (2010 - 2025) Legend: Each '' represents approximately 4,000 employees. Year | Employees ------------------------------------------------------------------ 2010 | (105,000) 2011 | (108,000) 2012 | (115,000) 2013 | (120,000) 2014 | (122,000) 2015 | (132,000) 2016 | (136,000) 2017 | (138,000) 20…

Even at 100k employees I’m still dumbfounded by that number. What do all these people do all day?

I’m guessing development is so slow that they have stacks of teams working in parallel to accomplish what 1 team could normally.

Re: Oracle slashes 30k jobs

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think its that easy. Look at their employee numbers over the years: (ai generated): Oracle Corporation Employee Count (2010 - 2025) Legend: Each '' represents approximately 4,000 employees. Year | Employees ------------------------------------------------------------------ 2010 | (105,000) 2011 | (108,000) 2012 | (115,000) 2013 | (120,000) 2014 | (122,000) 2015 | (132,000) 2016 | (136,000) 2017 | (138,000) 20…

Even at 100k employees I’m still dumbfounded by that number. What do all these people do all day?

Me too. Anyone here to enlighten us?
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