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Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

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Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#101

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Yeah for instance when Apple did this design a few years ago it was mostly unacceptable among Fandroids and HN crowd. Now its good, because its Android. Its no secret that HN is heavily biased against Apple (and to some extent MS). I don't know, must be all the Google employees here or something. Its always interesting to watch how these conversations turn out. Its been getting a lot more noticeable over the years on…

According to The Verge, it was a choice between faster data on the one hand, and timely updates, better battery life, and lower price on the other. I'm guessing for a lot of the Nexus's target market, and for Google, faster updates win out. http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-do...

I'm just surprised they're alienating so much of the U.S. market. People here were writing off the Galaxy Nexus because of the missing SD card slot alone. Take away LTE and the removable battery and this thing has absolutely zero chance of being successful in the U.S.

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Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

Well the difference is, you can just buy a different Android phone which is just as powerful but doesn't have these 'defects'. The choice is yours. With an iPhone, you either buy one "with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back" or you don't buy an iPhone at all.

The iPhone 5 has LTE and an aluminum back.

Edit: Not being snarky. Just a minor correction.

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It's really easy to drop the Nexus S. The back is too slippery.

I think the Nexus S is one of the most functional phones of the last two years. I kept returning to it after trying other phones. I will be upgrading to the Nexus 4. Although, I travel a lot with a backpack and having multiple batteries allows me up to 4 days without charging. I guess we're giving up functionality for design. I might attempt a DIY groin charger.

> I might attempt a DIY groin charger.

? :)

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

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Not sure what you'd 'save' - any major carrier you want to use with a data plan doesn't offer any (at all?) savings on monthly service plans. Prepaid pricing sucks for data. Do you want to pay $199 plus $90 month for airtime and data? Or $299 for an unlocked phone and... $90/month for airtime and data?

T-mobile offers $30/month plan: 5GB data, 100 minutes ($.1/minute overage). Straight Talk is $45 for 2GB, unlimited minutes. $300 for phone, 24 months at $30 is $1020. Most phone plans are $200 for phone, $80/month = $2120. That's a huge savings. Since the Nexus 4 doesn't support LTE, there's no reason to pay full price for ATT or Verizon.

That T-Mobile $30 plan is unlimited data, just throttled after 5GB

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

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Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

As an iPhone user (4S) that all sounds pretty standard! On a more serious note, I don't understand all the fuss about LTE. IIRC it's something like 20Mbps in practice, which is faster than most Internet connections in the US. What is the use case for such bandwidth on a phone? YouTube already plays just fine with HSPA+.

I went from HSPA+ on a Galaxy Nexus (AT&T) to LTE on an iPhone 5 (Verizon), and the difference is very noticeable, at least in my area of the US. HSPA+ was alright but still felt like a cellular data connection. LTE feels just like I'm on a fast wifi connection. It's probably the lower latency that makes it seem like wifi, not just the faster data transfer speeds.

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Or do what I did and go with a phone with near-vendor support of an AOSP ROM. Hello, Galaxy S III and CyanogenMod.

Sure, though personally I don't want to spend my time rooting my phone. For those who do, awesome. I don't feel like investing the time in that process when I could be doing more productive things (to me) with my day.

It really doesn't take that long. I flashed a stable 4.1 build onto nmy S3 from a new computer in about 10 minutes, starting from scratch, following step by step instructions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33460541&...

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#107

Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

Well the difference is, you can just buy a different Android phone which is just as powerful but doesn't have these 'defects'. The choice is yours. With an iPhone, you either buy one "with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back" or you don't buy an iPhone at all.

2011 called, it wants its 4S back.

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

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It hasn't caught much attention or focus but could this be the first phone that makes any sort of headway in the US against the two year plan/subsidy model? If yes, that has ramifications for the overall industry much greater than any one phone. Anyone in the US know how much you'd save on a realistic smart phone plan if you bought your own vs doing the two year subsidized model?

Not sure what you'd 'save' - any major carrier you want to use with a data plan doesn't offer any (at all?) savings on monthly service plans. Prepaid pricing sucks for data. Do you want to pay $199 plus $90 month for airtime and data? Or $299 for an unlocked phone and... $90/month for airtime and data?

I've been using prepaid smartphones in the US for the past two years, and have been paying $30 or less a month the whole time. Previously the best prepaid phones on cheap carriers have been pretty low-end and carrier-locked, but the unlocked Nexuses have changed that, and barely cost more than new carrier-locked phones.

The Galaxy Nexus first was $400 unlocked, then went down to $350, and the new phone is $300; this being the computer industry, prices will only get better from here.

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#109

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Not sure what you'd 'save' - any major carrier you want to use with a data plan doesn't offer any (at all?) savings on monthly service plans. Prepaid pricing sucks for data. Do you want to pay $199 plus $90 month for airtime and data? Or $299 for an unlocked phone and... $90/month for airtime and data?

T-Mobile does [1]. You can get 500 minutes, unlimited texts, and 2gb data (capped after that) for $50/month. 1 - http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Packages/ValuePackages.aspx?pkg...

Or 100 minutes, unlimited text, and 5GB HSPA+ data with unlimited EDGE for $30, with minutes $.10 each afterward.

I mostly make my long calls via Google Voice on my laptop anyway, so 100 minutes is usually plenty, and going over some months doesn't break the bank.

Re: Nexus 4 Review: Beautifully Crafted, Premium Android Phone

#110

Am I the only one that finds it somewhat funny that a phone with no LTE, non-removable battery, no SD card slot and glass front and back is the most talked about Android phone to date?

I think that what many people forget is that Nexus line has always been targeted at developers. Not general public. At least that's what I've taken for granted since the first Nexus device. Yes, there are glaring deficiencies. However, it's still a very powerful device without carrier lock-in or locked bootloader. And cheap. Excellent choice for someone who develops Android apps.

Don't forget: average consumer has no clue about nexus devices. But they do know about Samsung or Htc phones.

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