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Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by kdheiwns »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #186
hamstergene wrote: post #146

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A simple answer is that they see neither. What they think they see is actually a short snapshot of North Korean life with a red circle, a red arrow and a red caption text that says "North Korean propaganda here!!! -->", carefully drawn by their local propaganda. Sanity check: I present you a country X, whose language you don't speak, and whose news you don't read day to day. I show you their politician saying somethi…

Seems reasonable but it's not as if no one speaks Korean outside North Korea to verify what's being said.

People don't believe native speakers of their own language when they're told things that conflict with their political world view. Why would they trust someone who says "that's not an accurate translation" if that collides with their political opinions?

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by ben_w »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #186
hamstergene wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A simple answer is that they see neither. What they think they see is actually a short snapshot of North Korean life with a red circle, a red arrow and a red caption text that says "North Korean propaganda here!!! -->", carefully drawn by their local propaganda. Sanity check: I present you a country X, whose language you don't speak, and whose news you don't read day to day. I show you their politician saying somethi…

Seems reasonable but it's not as if no one speaks Korean outside North Korea to verify what's being said.

For any outsider telling me about North Korea, including South Koreans, I can't tell if I've been pranked with e.g. the South Korean version of The Onion, let alone something milder like I'm being told about this by someone who takes their version Breitbart more seriously than their version of The Wall Street Journal.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by ben_w »

renewiltord wrote: post #189
leptons wrote: post #176

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What percentage of Americans do you think live paycheck to paycheck?

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The phrase "live paycheck to paycheck" means "To spend all that one earns without saving anything", not the literal interpretation of "failing to die between paychecks" that you seem to be using here.

(IIRC, 60-70% is based on surveys, that percentage of people feel they're living like that, but actual stats are much lower, like 25% or so, but it's important to make sure the same thing is being discussed when having conversations like this).

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by abustamam »

LoganDark wrote: post #192
dandanua wrote: post #167

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The current administration has created a narrative that everything they do is good, while anything their opponents do is bad. Facts or meaning do not matter any more. I honestly don't understand how the USA has become this. This won't end well.

The USA became this through Trump being elected.

What? Trump is just a symptom. The US didn't suddenly become what it is now because of a vote. Like it or not (and I certainly don't), the people voted for this, twice. Whether they voted for it because they actually wanted it vs they voted for it because politicians convinced them they wanted it, it is what we wanted.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by abustamam »

yard2010 wrote: post #185
dandanua wrote: post #167

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The current administration has created a narrative that everything they do is good, while anything their opponents do is bad. Facts or meaning do not matter any more. I honestly don't understand how the USA has become this. This won't end well.

Tbf living throughout the past 20 years never have I ever get this feeling that the US is gonna "end well"

It'll end well, just not for the working class, if such a thing still exists at that time

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by abustamam »

andreygrehov wrote: post #170
dandanua wrote: post #167

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The current administration has created a narrative that everything they do is good, while anything their opponents do is bad. Facts or meaning do not matter any more. I honestly don't understand how the USA has become this. This won't end well.

The apps have nothing to do with the current administration. All these permissions were already in place before the current administration. It’s easy to verify this by looking at previous versions of the apps. HN has created a narrative that everything the current administration does is bad.

When a coworker leaves the company and I inherit their work, I am given a little bit of time to acclimate and understand the projects they were working on.

If it turns out a secret was exposed in production, or we're exposing PII in logs, or storing CCs or passwords in plain text, there's a certain time frame in which the blame shifts from my coworker for introducing it, to me for not catching it.

That time frame is a lot less than one year.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by abustamam »

VorpalWay wrote: post #182
herbst wrote: post #177

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To be fair that's the exact narrative European media seems to draw. Not sure how you could see anything else in this shitshow

As an European, the political situation in US has never seemed reasonable to me, and been on a mostly downhill slope for a long time. It has certainly gotten way way worse with the current administration though.

My relatives in Malaysia say it went from a slight downhill slope to a cliff and now we're in free fall.

The bottom has to be somewhere...

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by LoganDark »

abustamam wrote: post #204
LoganDark wrote: post #192

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The USA became this through Trump being elected.

What? Trump is just a symptom. The US didn't suddenly become what it is now because of a vote. Like it or not (and I certainly don't), the people voted for this, twice. Whether they voted for it because they actually wanted it vs they voted for it because politicians convinced them they wanted it, it is what we wanted.

I don't deny that Republicans existed before Trump, but Trump being elected certainly fast-tracked this skyrocketing fascist disaster.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Post by renewiltord »

ben_w wrote: post #203
renewiltord wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The phrase "live paycheck to paycheck" means "To spend all that one earns without saving anything", not the literal interpretation of "failing to die between paychecks" that you seem to be using here. (IIRC, 60-70% is based on surveys, that percentage of people feel they're living like that, but actual stats are much lower, like 25% or so, but it's important to make sure the same thing is being discussed when having…

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