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Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Also famines are political problems to start with. We have more then enough food. Getting it to people reliably is the issue - i.e. there's usually a plethora of other issues like an active war. It also isn't an economically isolated enterprise: Ukrainian grain shipments traversing into Europe via Polish roads and not heading to Africa via their ports caused a bunch of price crashes which became political flashpoints…

Which is why UNESCO's plan focused on delivering the food, not buying it.

Why not grow it, where the hungry people are?

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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How can people see the propaganda that happens in, say, North Korea, but fail to see what is happening in their own country? It boggles. It truly does.

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> I mean if you agree with it, it’s not propaganda

A very workable definition of "propaganda" might be "an idea crafted specifically so that you will think it was your idea in the first place"

That's why "agreeing" with propaganda is not the correct verb.

You either believe propaganda or you don't. This has nothing to do with reason or logic.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Apps obviously gather data. In fact, on common phone operating systems, they tend to have access to an insane amount of information, including what other apps are used, hardware identifiers, information related to Google/Apple accounts and more. As for things "requiring" apps, I am happy to do without those. If I cannot access something through a website on a device under my control, I will not use it. No convenience…

Oops. I meant apps can gather (more) data. The inconvenience is considerable. In the last few days I had the choice of use the app or drive 20 mins each way plus park, walk and possibly queue. Required (UK) government ID verification. The issued my new passport without that! It is often more costly to not use an app, not just inconvenient. My daughter had to use the bus company app to get (much cheaper) monthly ticke…

> In the last few days I had the choice of use the app or drive 20 mins each way plus park, walk and possibly queue.

It's rather shocking that this government service, whatever it may be, isn't accessible through a normal browser. Still, I would rather spend an hour driving somewhere than run spyware on my phone, at least if this is a one-time event. If I somehow faced an insurmountable inconvenience however, I would probably cave in and purchase a cheap Android phone only for these tasks.

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> I mean if you agree with it, it’s not propaganda A very workable definition of "propaganda" might be "an idea crafted specifically so that you will think it was your idea in the first place" That's why "agreeing" with propaganda is not the correct verb. You either believe propaganda or you don't. This has nothing to do with reason or logic.

Sure, and this 70% of Americans bullshit is propaganda by that measure. It is frequently trotted out on HN and is met with enthusiastic belief despite being total ass pull. There are US Senators pushing this propaganda and people enthusiastically agreeing.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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> This thing also has a "Text the President" button that auto-fills your message with "Greatest President Ever!" and then collects your name and phone number. when is the onion going to go bankrupt? it has to be soon, i imagine. no way it can compete with reality at this point. (the rest of the article is a bit too depressing for me to comment on at the moment, other than saying "wow, gross")

I'm pretty sure if you text anyone, they get your number (and name, via a reverse lookup.)

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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I’m surprised to see no comments on this yet: [The White House app] ships with 3 embedded trackers including Huawei Mobile Services Core (yes, the Chinese company the US government sanctioned, shipping tracking infrastructure inside the sitting president's official app) The executive branch has decided this company is so dangerous I can’t buy a monitor made by them - but it’s embedding its SDK in its official app?! I…

The current administration has created a narrative that everything they do is good, while anything their opponents do is bad. Facts or meaning do not matter any more. I honestly don't understand how the USA has become this. This won't end well.

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A Russian and an American get on a plane in Moscow and get to talking. The Russian says he works for the Kremlin and he's on his way to go learn American propaganda techniques. "What American propaganda techniques?" asks the American. "Exactly," the Russian replies.

This is the best joke I've heard in a long time

The version I know is a little different: A Russian visits America and meets an American at a bar and they get talking about life in Russia. "How is the propaganda?" says the American. "It's everywhere, but it's easy to ignore it" says the Russian. "Yours is much better." "But we don't have propaganda here" says the American. "Exactly" says the Russian.

idk how a person can be forced to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning and not think that's some North Korean style shit.

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It looks very different from the outside than it does from the inside. We are all subject to this.

If you think NK an US look the same from the outside check your body temp. Source: am outside both.

I'm outside both and I'm not seeing a lot of difference. Main one is that one is threatening everyone with nukes, and the other one isn't making any threats I can understand because they're in Korean.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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I’m surprised to see no comments on this yet: [The White House app] ships with 3 embedded trackers including Huawei Mobile Services Core (yes, the Chinese company the US government sanctioned, shipping tracking infrastructure inside the sitting president's official app) The executive branch has decided this company is so dangerous I can’t buy a monitor made by them - but it’s embedding its SDK in its official app?! I…

The current administration has created a narrative that everything they do is good, while anything their opponents do is bad. Facts or meaning do not matter any more. I honestly don't understand how the USA has become this. This won't end well.

The apps have nothing to do with the current administration. All these permissions were already in place before the current administration. It’s easy to verify this by looking at previous versions of the apps. HN has created a narrative that everything the current administration does is bad.
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