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Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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This is a concerning read, I'm not quite sure what the driving motivation is for Artemis, but the following answered at least part of my question -

> That context is a moon program that has spent close to $100 billion and 25 years with nothing to show for itself, at an agency that has just experienced mass firings and been through a near-death experience with its science budget

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Great read and interesting article. Hard to believe that NASA would risk astronauts lives simply to save face, but that appears to be what's going to happen.

Was there ever a risk-free spaceflight? Pretty sure even with this finding this flight would be safer than any Apollo.

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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The author seems to have a pretty extensive history of… strong disdain for Artemis II. While has mentioned concerns about the heat shield before it was in the context of a laundry list of complaints, and it was nowhere close to the top.

I’m not a rocket scientist, but then neither is the author.

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Great read and interesting article. Hard to believe that NASA would risk astronauts lives simply to save face, but that appears to be what's going to happen.

Was there ever a risk-free spaceflight? Pretty sure even with this finding this flight would be safer than any Apollo.

Saturn 5 had a flawless record. The leftover space shuttle parts which SLS is cobbled together from, not so much. SRBs are inherently dangerous, theyre designed to quickly launch nukes from silos, not people. And Orion is just a typical modern Boeing project. So far its fallen at every hurdle right?

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Great read and interesting article. Hard to believe that NASA would risk astronauts lives simply to save face, but that appears to be what's going to happen.

Was there ever a risk-free spaceflight? Pretty sure even with this finding this flight would be safer than any Apollo.

You seem to be ignoring the "just to save face" part. I'd argue it would be a worse thing for our bar for how safe it should be to be raised significantly from when we had been in space as a species less than a decade to now that it's been 65 years.

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Great read and interesting article. Hard to believe that NASA would risk astronauts lives simply to save face, but that appears to be what's going to happen.

But that’s exactly what happened with Challenger

And Columbia, too, when they made the decision to reenter without inspection, and reenter instead of waiting for rescue.

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was there ever a risk-free spaceflight? Pretty sure even with this finding this flight would be safer than any Apollo.

Saturn 5 had a flawless record. The leftover space shuttle parts which SLS is cobbled together from, not so much. SRBs are inherently dangerous, theyre designed to quickly launch nukes from silos, not people. And Orion is just a typical modern Boeing project. So far its fallen at every hurdle right?

Orion is a Lockheed (CM) and Airbus (ESM) project.
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