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Re: Do your own writing

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Writing (unassisted) is probably the first step towards your own independent thoughts. I'm reminded of that scene in "Ghost in the Shell" where some guy ask the Major why he is on the team (full of cyborgs) and she responds something along the line of "Because you are basically un-enhanced (maybe without a ghost?) and are likely to respond differently then the rest of us; Overspecialization is death." I think a diver…

> I'm reminded of that scene in "Ghost in the Shell" where some guy ask the Major why he is on the team (full of cyborgs) and she responds something along the line of "Because you are basically un-enhanced (maybe without a ghost?) and are likely to respond differently then the rest of us; Overspecialization is death."

The scene you mentioned (amazing movie and holds up to this day) with the Major and Togusa:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VQUBYaAgyKI

While I frequently use a similar argument, "We need someone 'untainted' to provide a different point of view", my honest opinion is somewhat more nuanced. These models tend to gravitate towards some sort of level of writing competence based on how good we are at filtering pre-training data and creating supervised data for fine-tuning. However, that level is still far below where my current professional writing is and I find it dreadful to read compared to good writing. Plenty of my students can not "see" this, as they are still below the level of current LLMs and I caution them to overly rely on LLMs for writing as they can then never learn good writing and "reach above" LLM-level writing. Instead, they must read widely, reflect, and also I always provide written feedback on their writing (rather than making edits myself) so that they must incorporate it manually into their own and when doing so they consider why I disagree with the current writing and hopefully learn to become better writers.

Re: Do your own writing

#142

I've long considered writing to be the "last step in thinking". I can't tell you how many times an idea, that was crystal clear in my mind, fell apart the moment I started writing and I realize there were major contradictions I needed to resolve. Likewise I also have numerous times where writing about something loosely and casually revealed to me something that fundamentally changed how I viewed a topic and really co…

Im in a slight disagreement with our CTO about the value of writing acceptance criteria yourself. When I write my own acceptance criteria its a useful tool forcing me to think through how the system ought to work. Definitely in agreement that writing is an important tool for clarifying thinking, not just generating context.

Re: Do your own writing

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I think LLM writing is probably a short term fad. It doesn't provide any value and no one likes reading it. That said, anywhere where value can be extracted by posting writing will be completely destroyed by LLMs as people try to grift their way in. Either we find some way to filter out AI slop or the internet just stops getting used to post and consume content.

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It's similar to the "workslop" problem where you can generate reports and documents rapidly, but the real work has shifted to the receiver who has to review and correct mistakes. In open source this has moved to the PR review being the actual work while generating the code and submitting it is worthless.

Obviously this is nonsensical long term. Why would I want to receive your LLM output when I could get the same output myself?

Re: Do your own writing

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It's similar to the "workslop" problem where you can generate reports and documents rapidly, but the real work has shifted to the receiver who has to review and correct mistakes. In open source this has moved to the PR review being the actual work while generating the code and submitting it is worthless. Obviously this is nonsensical long term. Why would I want to receive your LLM output when I could get the same out…

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Re: Do your own writing

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post #141

Writing (unassisted) is probably the first step towards your own independent thoughts. I'm reminded of that scene in "Ghost in the Shell" where some guy ask the Major why he is on the team (full of cyborgs) and she responds something along the line of "Because you are basically un-enhanced (maybe without a ghost?) and are likely to respond differently then the rest of us; Overspecialization is death." I think a diver…

> I'm reminded of that scene in "Ghost in the Shell" where some guy ask the Major why he is on the team (full of cyborgs) and she responds something along the line of "Because you are basically un-enhanced (maybe without a ghost?) and are likely to respond differently then the rest of us; Overspecialization is death." The scene you mentioned (amazing movie and holds up to this day) with the Major and Togusa: https://…

Bitterpilled. Wow, the audio mixing on that clip is great. I miss art like this. I'm afraid that nothing will recapture the way I felt watching GOTS the first time.

Re: Do your own writing

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In a lot of my AI assisted writing, the prompt is an order of magnitude larger than the output. Prompt: here are 5 websites, 3 articles I wrote, 7 semi-relevant markdown notes, the invitation for the lecture I'm giving, a description of the intended audience, and my personal plan and outline. Output: draft of a lecture And then the review, the iteration, feedback loops. The result is thoroughly a collaboration betwee…

Great example. Just give me the links you would give to the LLM. I also have an LLM and can use it if I want to, or I can read the links and notes. But I have zero interest in reading or hearing a lecture that you yourself find too tedious to write.

Performative nonsense.

You have less interest in sifting through multiple articles and wiki pages sent to you by a stranger with a prompt than the one paragraph same stranger selected as their curated point.

And pretending like you’d act otherwise is precisely the kind of “anti ai virtue signaling” that serves as a negative mind virus.

AI is full of hype, but the delusion and head in sand reactions are worse by a mile

Re: Do your own writing

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For your context, I'm an AI hater, so understand my assumptions as such. > The obvious best solution is to have your agent write release notes for your agent in the future to have context. No more tedious writing or reading, but also no missing context. Why is more AI the "obvious" best solution here? If nobody wants to read your release notes, then why write them? And if they're going to slim them down with their AI…

This is kind of a fundamental issue with release notes. They are broadcasting lots of information, and only a small amount of information is relevant to any particular user (at least in my experience). If I had a technically capable human assistant, I would have them filter through release notes from a vendor and only give me the relevant information for APIs I use. Having them take care of the boring, menial task so…

Or you could Ctrl-F.

Re: Do your own writing

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I find it interesting that there are some who want to tell me how to use AI. Are these people politically on the left? I'm genuinely interested to know what kind of person does this?

Re: Do your own writing

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It's not eliminating toil, it's externalizing it from the writer to the reader. If writing something is too tedious for you, at least respect my time as the reader enough to just give me the prompt you used rather than the output.

In a lot of my AI assisted writing, the prompt is an order of magnitude larger than the output. Prompt: here are 5 websites, 3 articles I wrote, 7 semi-relevant markdown notes, the invitation for the lecture I'm giving, a description of the intended audience, and my personal plan and outline. Output: draft of a lecture And then the review, the iteration, feedback loops. The result is thoroughly a collaboration betwee…

Because it’s not totally clear from your comment: what part are you contributing in this process?

Re: Do your own writing

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Sometimes I don't want creativity though, I'm just not familiar enough with the solution space and I use the LLM as a sort of gradient descent simulator to the right solution to my problem (the LLM which itself used gradient descent when trained, meta, I know). I am not looking for wholly new solutions, just one that fits the problem the best, just as one could Google that information but LLMs save even that searchin…

> I'm just not familiar enough with the solution space Neither is the LLM

No, this is the kind of thing LLMs are very good at. Knowing the specifics and details and minutiae about technologies, programming languages, etc.
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