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Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I specifically did not say money makes them mentally ill, but rather the type of person that seeks to hoard so much wealth that they have billions is correlated with mental illness.

> the type of person that seeks to hoard so much wealth that they have billions is correlated with mental illness Do we have any actual evidence of this? I know plenty of exorbitantly wealthy people who aren’t hoarding anything, they just didn’t sell their piece of the closely-held business they started, and they spend their time skiing, reading, travelling and taking care of their friends and family.

>Do we have any actual evidence of this?

to be fair, the original comment by malfist started with "makes you wonder", so i dont think they are asserting this as fact.

>I know plenty of exorbitantly wealthy people who aren’t hoarding anything,

some people would see this sentence as contradictory, and they would suggest that the thing those exorbitantly wealthy people are hoarding is money.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

#43
post #16

The closing point is the one that should get more attention — every single one of these apps could be replaced by a web page. And from a product standpoint, there's really only one reason to ship a native app when your content is just press releases and weather alerts: you want access to APIs the browser won't give you. Background location, biometrics, device identity, boot triggers — none of that is available throug…

> there's really only one reason to ship a native app when your content is just press releases and weather alerts

The flip side is there are (presumably) real people downloading these apps. Maybe it’s a kid interested in a career in the FBI, or the family of someone who works there. Idk. (I thought it would contain a secure tip line or something, but the app seems to be a social-media front end first.)

I am willing to entertain that there is a legitimate reason for an app to exist without conceding that it should be a pile of trash.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the type of person that seeks to hoard so much wealth that they have billions is correlated with mental illness Do we have any actual evidence of this? I know plenty of exorbitantly wealthy people who aren’t hoarding anything, they just didn’t sell their piece of the closely-held business they started, and they spend their time skiing, reading, travelling and taking care of their friends and family.

> Do we have any actual evidence of this? to be fair, the original comment by malfist started with " makes you wonder ", so i dont think they are asserting this as fact. > I know plenty of exorbitantly wealthy people who aren’t hoarding anything, some people would see this sentence as contradictory, and they would suggest that the thing those exorbitantly wealthy people are hoarding is money.

> they would suggest that the thing those exorbitantly wealthy people are hoarding is money

And I’d say they’re literally wrong. They may be hoarding capital. And yes, some wealthy people do hoard money per se. But outside the Epstein class there are lots of people we just don’t hear about because they aren’t on social media talking about how rich they are. Because while it’s fun to postulate that the rich have mental illnesses, it’s documented that social-media addiction causes them.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

#45
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ming boggling just how....cringe... these billionaires that want to run the world are. Makes you wonder if the personas that seek billions are correlated strongly with mental illnesses.

Right? If I had enough money that I could make a serious dent in local or even global poverty without noticing the change in my lifestyle, and I just... chose not to, I have no idea how I could sleep at night.

Huge numbers (billions) of people have enough money to make massive changes to the lives of those less fortunate than them, but don't, and prefer instead to make incremental upgrades to their own lives. New rugs, more savings, first-class airline tickets, eating out a few more times a month, etc.

This is just human nature.

People who are at wealth level x tend to say, "I can't believe that people at wealth level x+1 aren't more generous!" all the while ignoring their own lack of desire to give generously to people at wealth levels x-1 and below.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

#46
post #41

FYI, regardless of election outcome, the next government is highly unlikely to roll this back

> regardless of election outcome, the next government is highly unlikely to roll this back

Well yes, it’s not a high priority. I’m not going to bring it up with my electeds. Are you? If everyone who thinks this is a huge deal is too lazy and nihilistic to do anything about it, it won’t be prioritized.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

#47

> This thing also has a "Text the President" button that auto-fills your message with "Greatest President Ever!" and then collects your name and phone number. when is the onion going to go bankrupt? it has to be soon, i imagine. no way it can compete with reality at this point. (the rest of the article is a bit too depressing for me to comment on at the moment, other than saying "wow, gross")

They've pivoted to good news. It's more absurd. https://theonion.com/breaking-all-of-world-s-problems-solved...

It is still bad news. The last sentence refers to things working out for everyone except the reader:

"Sources went on to report that, due a minor oversight that also occurred as you slumbered, your student loans must still be repaid in full and are now subject to a highly predatory ballooning interest rate."

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

#48
post #16

The closing point is the one that should get more attention — every single one of these apps could be replaced by a web page. And from a product standpoint, there's really only one reason to ship a native app when your content is just press releases and weather alerts: you want access to APIs the browser won't give you. Background location, biometrics, device identity, boot triggers — none of that is available throug…

> And from a product standpoint, there's really only one reason to ship a native app I have worked on several applications where the product managers wanted to make our web app something that could be installed through the app store, because that's how users expect to get apps. I know people who don't even type search queries or URLs into a browser, they just tell the phone what they want to find and open whatever sh…

> I know people who don't even type search queries or URLs into a browser, they just tell the phone what they want to find and open whatever shows up in a search result.

I don't know exactly what you are talking about here, but if I wanted to find a restaurant that is local I definitely just type 'Miguels' into the browser and then it searches google for 'Miguels' automatically and it know's my location so the first result is going to be their website and phone number and I can load the website for the menu or just call if I know what my family wants.

However even then, I'd rather have an app for them where I can enter in the items I want to order. I've noticed apps tend to be more responsive. Maybe it's just the coding paradigm that the applications tend to load all of the content already and the actions I take in the app are just changing what is displayed, but on a website they make every 'action' trigger an API call that requires a response before it moves on to the next page? This makes a big difference when my connection isn't great.

I also find it easier to swap between active apps instead of between tabs of a browser. If I want to check on the status of the order or whatnot, it's easier to swap to the app and have that refresh then it is to click the 'tab' button of the browser and find the correct tab the order was placed in.

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

#49
post #16

The closing point is the one that should get more attention — every single one of these apps could be replaced by a web page. And from a product standpoint, there's really only one reason to ship a native app when your content is just press releases and weather alerts: you want access to APIs the browser won't give you. Background location, biometrics, device identity, boot triggers — none of that is available throug…

Today morning, I was checking TSA wait times. Guess what, they want you to install their app to get the wait time. [1]

[1](https://www.dhs.gov/check-wait-times)

Re: Fedware: Government apps that spy harder than the apps they ban

#50
post #6

> This thing also has a "Text the President" button that auto-fills your message with "Greatest President Ever!" and then collects your name and phone number. when is the onion going to go bankrupt? it has to be soon, i imagine. no way it can compete with reality at this point. (the rest of the article is a bit too depressing for me to comment on at the moment, other than saying "wow, gross")

It's ming boggling just how....cringe... these billionaires that want to run the world are. Makes you wonder if the personas that seek billions are correlated strongly with mental illnesses.

You aren't the first one to notice the correlation. It is a heavily studied subject.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wealth+and+sociopathy

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