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My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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I never said the lunch was free only that it should be nutritious.

Amd for the diner, new cars are much less nutritious due to the regulation. They're like some sort of bland protein-shake lunch.

No, they are more nutritious just like that bland protein-shake is. All those cool hot-rods from the 70s will crush you to death easily while wasting more gas to do it.

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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People aren’t electing “morons” out of ignorance. They are electing people that hate the same people they hate. You are blaming ignorance where it is active malice.

Electing people for the things they hate is ignorance for politics as a serious field.

Again you call it ignorance instead of malevolence.

How is electing Trump any different than George Wallace having a slogan of “Segregation Now! Segregation Tomorrow! Segregation Forever!”?

There was no ignorance. Everyone knows that the government has a “monopoly on [legalized] violence”. If they can elect people who will turn that violence against people they don’t like, they are doing it with full knowledge.

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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No there was never a rule about “telling the truth” the rule was “equal time”. So if one party said “vaccines keep people from dying” and the other party said “vaccines would cause you to grow extra limbs” you had to allow them both on. Second, it had nothing to do with the Supreme Court. The theory was that the airwaves belong to the public and the FCC has jurisdiction. It never applied to cable channels like FoxNew…

> The theory was that the airwaves belong to the public and the FCC has jurisdiction. Now most things go over the shared network (InterNet) so that problem should have fixed it self, no?

Airwaves are limited resource - especially spectrum suitable for broadcast. Two companies can’t share the same broadcast spectrum.

The Internet is not a limited resource and not owned by the public and licensed to broadcasters. More than one company can lay cable.

Do you really want the government policing what can be said on the internet?

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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Decades of HN users finger wagging and suggesting FOSS hardware has progressed society nowhere. 12 months from EU mandatory replaceable batteries and products across the industry are being redesigned with repairability, usb-c, and user friendly designs. It’s time to accept regulation actually does work when you have a competent government.

> usb-c Don't forget about the time micro-USB has mandated. Was that "competent government"?

That government has a limited jurisdiction over the offenders. They were still effective to the point, that there was only a single company not having microUSB. Granted that wasn't a small part of the market, but also not the largest.

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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Okay but what solution lies down that road? That's the problem. People don't want to blame the voters because there's no solution. We are grasping for something that is possible to fix that isn't just "Somehow americans are especially bad at doing very basic things for no reason"

The large citizenries that later (19th century) forced administrations into constitutions and participation in policy started out with state mandated education and a class consciousness that is based on being knowledged and sophisticated. You need to make the next generation as smart as possible as you can, optimally also on topics concerning the society and economics.

The late 19th century was also when “Separate but Equal” was enshrined as the law of the land by the Supreme Court and a few decades later there were Japanese internment camps…

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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Decades of HN users finger wagging and suggesting FOSS hardware has progressed society nowhere. 12 months from EU mandatory replaceable batteries and products across the industry are being redesigned with repairability, usb-c, and user friendly designs. It’s time to accept regulation actually does work when you have a competent government.

And making them more repairable as someone else said has tradeoffs. It’s not like Apple is the low cost leader. Choose another vendor

Engineering failures relating to repairability defects are some of the most annoying.

OTOH they can be a major pillar in a well-orchestrated anti-reuse, anti-recycling, anti-environmental money machine for some manufacturers.

>Choose another vendor

Good advice, I already did once Woz left ;)

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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You also got a connector that supports much more than USB 2.0 speeds. It also supports high power charging, video, thunderbolt, etc. Lightning was a dead-end connector that was only kept around to keep the Made-for-iPhone moat drawbridge up. USB-C makes the right design choice in putting the springs in the cable. Those wear out over time. I've never seen the male part of the female USB-C break, but I'm sure it's poss…

USB-C is decent for data transfer. It's pretty poor for power delivery: the pins are too close, so it's not rated for use in bathrooms or kitchens, and there are many more of them than needed for power delivery, making it relatively expensive to use in things like children's toys. It was a mistake to conflate flexible power delivery and data transfer, you rarely need both at the same time. It's possible to design a b…

USB is a bus that is intended to be universal for serial *data*, that is what it is designed for.

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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The perfect example of cognitive dissonance! The government, which mandates that the can of tomato soup I buy must not contain any glass shards, is immediately equated with physical violence. Although the shopkeeper who requires me to pay for the can before I take it out of the store is far more likely to get in my face if I don’t follow their rules. I don’t understand this worldview. You’re selling your freedom to b…

If I buy a can of soup and find glass in it, I have a valid claim against the manufacturer. It's a matter of holding someone accountable for fraud or negligence, not a matter of regulation. The proper route is a court, not a bureaucratic agency that preemptively dictates production methods on the assumption that every manufacturer is a potential prisoner. > get in my face if I don’t follow their rules If a shopkeeper…

> If I buy a can of soup and find glass in it, I have a valid claim against the manufacturer.

Only because there is a court system provided by the state and because there is regulation that says that soup doesn't contain glass. Otherwise the manufacturer can just say "You didn't want glass in your soup, sucks, but for us glass in soup is part of the accepted distribution. Be happy that you got additional glass for free." .

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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I disagree. The lack of repairability has external costs not born by the purchaser or the manufacturer -- more toxic trash unnecessarily added to the environment. Forcing a particular trade-off on everyone is entirely the point. It's the point of car safety, it's also the point of minimum warranties, electrical emission regulations, safety standards, etc.

It's much more effective and economically efficient to deal with externalized pollution costs with deposits to incentivize proper disposal. A ton of normal users will simply never bother to repair their own laptops no matter how easy it is, but you don't even have to recycle your own bottles and cans to see the effectiveness of bottle deposits work. Someone will usually come and recycle them for you in any big city.

> It's much more effective and economically efficient to deal with externalized pollution costs with deposits to incentivize proper disposal.

Or to just mandate devices that doesn't need to be dispose so often.

> A ton of normal users will simply never bother to repair their own laptops no matter how easy it is

Doesn't matter, because simplicity contributes directly to prize and when you can get your existing device fixed for cheaper than getting a new one, you likely will do it.

Re: My MacBook keyboard is broken and it's insanely expensive to fix

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>> your car can easily hurt a total stranger whereas the consequences of your choice in laptop are strictly personal. You know that safety for pedestrians is also a very tightly regulated car safety category, right? Obviously, there's not much that can be done if you get hit by a car going 70mph, but the fact that most people should survive a 30mph impact with a modern car is mostly thanks to regulations requiring cr…

Not in the US. Specific pedestrian safety features are not included in cars sold there due to lack of regulation. FMVSS was planning a regulation modelled after ECE R127, then the administration changed and no progress since...

Lack of regulation resulting in worse outcomes is also a data point for regulation being able to solve problems.
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