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FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

#21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you exclude bots and otherwise fake accounts the ratio is much worse than 20:1.

that sucks! whatever more accurate numbers you want to substitute in there is fine, the point remains the same.

My point is that what you're being asked to pay for is wildly misrepresented.

To be more explicit: you're paying extra to give more porn bots access to your inbox.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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Key quote: > Even though it did not have any business relationship with OkCupid, the third-party data recipient asked the company to share large datasets of OkCupid user photos and related data with it because OkCupid’s founders were financial investors in the third party. OkCupid provided the third party with access to nearly three million OkCupid user photos as well as location and other information without placing…

Just guessing, but the third party company did not break a law or go against their privacy policy.

Reuters says it is "Clarifai" if you wanted to know.

https://www.reuters.com/world/match-group-settles-us-ftc-cla...

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

#23

Key quote: > Even though it did not have any business relationship with OkCupid, the third-party data recipient asked the company to share large datasets of OkCupid user photos and related data with it because OkCupid’s founders were financial investors in the third party. OkCupid provided the third party with access to nearly three million OkCupid user photos as well as location and other information without placing…

I'm wondering if this means 3 million copyright violations that could be litigated in civil court.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

#24

Key quote: > Even though it did not have any business relationship with OkCupid, the third-party data recipient asked the company to share large datasets of OkCupid user photos and related data with it because OkCupid’s founders were financial investors in the third party. OkCupid provided the third party with access to nearly three million OkCupid user photos as well as location and other information without placing…

The FTC article links to the federal complaint[0] which names the third-party data recipient as Clarifai, Inc.

"In September 2014, the CEO of Clarifai, Inc. e-mailed one of OkCupid’s founders requesting that Humor Rainbow give Clarifai, Inc. (i.e., the Data Recipient) access to large datasets of OkCupid photos."

[0] https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/OkCupid-MatchCo...

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

#25
All of these sites do shady shit. I'm so glad I'm no longer single.

I signed up for eHarmony with a unique email address dedicated to that site. After wasting 6 months, I chose to delete my account.

Lo and behold, soon spam started to show up on this account, as if the floodgates had been opened. It was a unique account that I had not used anywhere else just for this specific reason, and my hunch was justified.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

#26

No class action or fines for discrimination based on gender? OkCupid gave users different prices based on whether they selected male or female for their profile.

> OkCupid gave users different prices based on whether they selected male or female for their profile. never heard or thought about this before, but it kind of makes sense for a dating app. its one of the only levers available to them to attempt any sort of balance between user genders. it sucks for everyone (including the users) if the male:female ratio is like 20:1 or whatever. i would rather pay a couple of extra…

Reminds of being a young guy and feeling annoyed when girls are being let into clubs for free without waiting in line, and I had to wait in line and pay. Sometimes I could not get in because the club was "full", but the girls would be allowed in.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

#27

No class action or fines for discrimination based on gender? OkCupid gave users different prices based on whether they selected male or female for their profile.

Does anything in the FTC action prevent users from filing their own class action suit(s)?

(Sincere question, not snark)

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

#28
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OkCupid gave users different prices based on whether they selected male or female for their profile. never heard or thought about this before, but it kind of makes sense for a dating app. its one of the only levers available to them to attempt any sort of balance between user genders. it sucks for everyone (including the users) if the male:female ratio is like 20:1 or whatever. i would rather pay a couple of extra…

Reminds of being a young guy and feeling annoyed when girls are being let into clubs for free without waiting in line, and I had to wait in line and pay. Sometimes I could not get in because the club was "full", but the girls would be allowed in.

If the service is free, you are the product :-)

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

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I once went on a date with someone who did research at OKCupid who told me that they were doing NLP-style analysis of peoples' messages that they sent to each other. Still not really sure what to think of the date itself, but it was a fucked up admission.

makes me wonder if the person you went on a date with cherry-picked you due to your data. (anyone who would post on hacker news is obviously a good catch!)

You're funny.

I think the "only thing" that would make me cherry-pickable from their data is that I used an autoclicker to give everyone a 5 star... I have mixed feelings about doing that, but I got a couple (surprisingly nice) dates out of it that never went anywhere.

Re: FTC action against Match and OkCupid for deceiving users, sharing personal data

#30

> As part of a settlement, OkCupid, operated by Dallas-based Humor Rainbow, Inc., and Match Group Americas, which provides services for Humor Rainbow, will be prohibited from misrepresenting its privacy policies. Because everyone else is "allowed" to misrepresent its privacy policies.

It’s more like “strike one,” and sets up a clear standard for what happens if this continues, as it did in another well-known case.[1]

[1] https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/facebook-agrees-pay-...

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