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Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Post by JohnTHaller »

timrogers wrote: post #250

Tim from the Copilot coding agent team here. We've now disabled these tips in pull requests created by or touched by Copilot, so you won't see this happen again for future PRs. We've been including product tips in PRs created by Copilot coding agent. The goal was to help developers learn new ways to use the agent in their workflow. But hearing the feedback here, and on reflection, this was the wrong judgement call. W…

For what it's worth, I appreciate that you took the time to address the issue and respond here, Tim.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Post by pinkmuffinere »

simonw wrote: post #371

In case people missed it in the other thread, GitHub have now disabled this: https://twitter.com/martinwoodward/status/203861213108446452... > We've disabled it already. Basically it was giving product tips which was kinda ok on Copilot originated PR's but then when we added the ability to have Copilot work on _any_ PR by mentioning it the behaviour became icky. Disabled product tips entirely thanks to the feedback.

I’m grateful they disabled it, but their response still feels a bit tone deaf to me.

> Disabled product tips entirely thanks to the feedback.

This sounds like they are saying “thanks for your input!”, when really it feels more like “if you didn’t go out of your way to complain, we would have left it in forever!”

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Post by neya »

Aurornis wrote: post #348

I actually love these ads and also the way Claude injects itself as a co-author. Seeing them is an easy signal to recognize work that was submitted by someone so lazy they couldn’t even edit the commit message. You can see the vibe coded PRs right away. I think we should continue encouraging AI-generated PRs to label themselves, honestly. I’m not against AI coding tools, but I would like to know when someone is tryin…

> I would like to know when someone is trying to have the tool do all of their work for them.

Absolutely spot on. Maybe I'm old school, but I never let AI touch my commit message history. That is for me - when 6 months down the line I am looking at it, retracing my steps - affirming my thought process and direction of development, I need absolute clarity. That is also because I take pride in my work.

If you let an AI commit gibberish into the history, that pollution is definitely going to cost you down the line, I will definitely be going "WTF was it doing here? Why was this even approved?" and that's a situation I never want to find myself in.

Again, old man yells at cloud and all, but hey, if you don't own the code you write, who else will?

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

ncr100 wrote: post #325
mathieudutour wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know if Raycast team even knows about this. I'm part of Raycast, we didn't know about it, learnt about it here

Creepy. Looks like they rolled it back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47573233 Collection of my thoughts which don't really get to a point: - Microsoft owns GitHub, where Raycast is being mentioned thousands of times by their tooling. - Microsoft is a modern popularizer of the infamous phrase, embrace extend extinguish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... - Microsoft has a history o…

> Microsoft has a history of monopoly behavior

I just want to note that the case you link to was 25 years ago. The number of people working at Microsoft at the time who are still working there today is very small.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Post by Hussell »

rvz wrote: post #355

> "We won't do something like this again." They (Microsoft / GitHub) will do it again. Do not be fooled. Never ever trust them because their words are completely empty and they will never change.

"We" here likely refers to Tim and his current coworkers who were present to see this, not every current and future employee of Microsoft / Github. Try not to think of any organization or institution as a person, but as lots of individual people, constantly joining and leaving the group.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Post by dpoloncsak »

jackp96 wrote: post #378
kstenerud wrote: post #365

The ads are annoying, and I'm glad Microsoft will stop doing it. One thing I do like, however, is how agents add themselves as co-authors in commit messages. Having a signal for which commits are by hand and which are by agent is very useful, both for you and in aggregate (to see how well you are wielding AI, and the quality of the code being generated). Even when I edit the commit message, I still leave in the Claud…

So, philosophically speaking, I agree with this approach. But I did read that there was some speculation regarding the future legal implications of signalling that an AI wrote/cowrote a commit. I know Anthropic's been pretty clear that we own the generated code, but if a copyright lawsuit goes sideways (since these were all built with pirated data and licensed code) — does that open you or your company up to litigati…

I'm pretty sure IF a copyright lawsuit went sideways you would still be open to litigation risk, just hiding the evidence.

What you're doing would fundamentally be similar to copyright theft, using 'someone' else's code without attributing them (it?) to avoid repercussions

Obviously the morals and ethics of not attributing an LLM vs an actual human vary. I am not trying to simp for the machines here.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Post by coder543 »

saberience wrote: post #373
coder543 wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Codex one comes from the new `github` plugin, which includes a `github:yeet` skill. There are several ways to disable it: you can disconnect github from codex entirely, or uninstall the plugin, or add this to your config.toml: [[skills.config]] name = "github:yeet" enabled = false I agree that skill is too opinionated as written, with effects beyond just creating branches.

What's weird is, I never installed any github plugins, or indeed any customization to Codex, other than updating using brew... so I was so confused when this started happening.

If you visit https://chatgpt.com/codex/settings/connectors, you're saying you don't have GitHub connected?

Plugins are a new feature as of this past week, so Codex "helpfully" installs the GitHub one automatically if you have GitHub connected.

Re: Copilot edited an ad into my PR

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Post by da_grift_shift »

simonw wrote: post #371

In case people missed it in the other thread, GitHub have now disabled this: https://twitter.com/martinwoodward/status/203861213108446452... > We've disabled it already. Basically it was giving product tips which was kinda ok on Copilot originated PR's but then when we added the ability to have Copilot work on _any_ PR by mentioning it the behaviour became icky. Disabled product tips entirely thanks to the feedback.

Accepting the megacorp euphemisms without critique ("product tips") is how enshittification festers.
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