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15 years, one server, 8GB RAM and 500k users – how Webminal refuses to die

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Re: 15 years, one server, 8GB RAM and 500k users – how Webminal refuses to die

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Post by sudo_cowsay »

giis wrote: post #4
sudo_cowsay wrote: post #3

I've never tried Webminal (only used Linode for it's simplicity). But, it seems great. I'll probably try it out.

Sure thanks, Let me know if you have feedback.

I really like the ease of use of the site. It's also very clean. However, when you go into the Linux, there is a bit of latency (very noticeable). I know that it's impossible to remove the latency completely (it is what it is), but is there a way to slightly reduce it?

Re: 15 years, one server, 8GB RAM and 500k users – how Webminal refuses to die

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Post by sudo_cowsay »

giis wrote: post #4
sudo_cowsay wrote: post #3

I've never tried Webminal (only used Linode for it's simplicity). But, it seems great. I'll probably try it out.

Sure thanks, Let me know if you have feedback.

How does it only work on 8gb of RAM if it serves 500k users (albeit not all 500k at once)?

Re: 15 years, one server, 8GB RAM and 500k users – how Webminal refuses to die

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Post by mikkupikku »

To be fair. 8GB of ram is huge. I don't know, maybe I'm stuck in the early 00s but even 2 GB of ram still seems extravagant; I remember when that was an exotic amount of RAM for dedicated gamers to play extremely high fidelity games, so for a mere web server 8 GB of ram almost seems like absurd overkill. I still feel a tinge of shame whenever I see any software of my own using more than a few hundred megabytes. What a waste.

Re: 15 years, one server, 8GB RAM and 500k users – how Webminal refuses to die

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Post by aduty »

mikkupikku wrote: post #24

To be fair. 8GB of ram is huge. I don't know, maybe I'm stuck in the early 00s but even 2 GB of ram still seems extravagant; I remember when that was an exotic amount of RAM for dedicated gamers to play extremely high fidelity games, so for a mere web server 8 GB of ram almost seems like absurd overkill. I still feel a tinge of shame whenever I see any software of my own using more than a few hundred megabytes. What…

I remember when 16 MB was considered a lot. Then again, I also remember when graphics acceleration was considered optional.

Re: 15 years, one server, 8GB RAM and 500k users – how Webminal refuses to die

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Post by giis »

mikkupikku wrote: post #24

To be fair. 8GB of ram is huge. I don't know, maybe I'm stuck in the early 00s but even 2 GB of ram still seems extravagant; I remember when that was an exotic amount of RAM for dedicated gamers to play extremely high fidelity games, so for a mere web server 8 GB of ram almost seems like absurd overkill. I still feel a tinge of shame whenever I see any software of my own using more than a few hundred megabytes. What…

Until few days server ago was using 8GB and I did a cost cutting measure and its running on 4GB server for last week or so. :)

Re: 15 years, one server, 8GB RAM and 500k users – how Webminal refuses to die

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Post by giis »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #25

Old school internet. Internet done right. Great work giis. I haven't used it, I didn't know it existed until now, but I'm happy it exists and has been providing service to those who need it. There should be more of this.

Thanks, most of these came out restriction, we cant afford to throw money on horizontal scaling (adding more server,load server etc). So we kind of forced to try out new things to keep cost affordable. There are many thing left out on above doc: IIRC, we started with openvz and even today our security relies on SELinux, how we remapped user account creation with pre-existing templates for ext4 quota, we moved to xfs because of flexibility. Mysqldb quota/limits, fork bombs by college/school students bringing out docker environment. Old school internet is right term.

Re: 15 years, one server, 8GB RAM and 500k users – how Webminal refuses to die

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Post by seethishat »

mikkupikku wrote: post #24

To be fair. 8GB of ram is huge. I don't know, maybe I'm stuck in the early 00s but even 2 GB of ram still seems extravagant; I remember when that was an exotic amount of RAM for dedicated gamers to play extremely high fidelity games, so for a mere web server 8 GB of ram almost seems like absurd overkill. I still feel a tinge of shame whenever I see any software of my own using more than a few hundred megabytes. What…

The major difference, here, is this is intended for multiple users (not one person). Imaging 5,000 users all using the device at the same time. The amount of memory, open file handles, network connections, etc. for many users at once adds up.
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