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ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by moffkalast »

scq wrote: post #137
moffkalast wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah just had this earlier today, I had to write my response in vscode and paste it in, there were literal seconds of lag for typing each character. Typical bloated React.

Just because a web application uses React and is slow, it does not follow that it is slow because of React. It's perfectly possible to write fast or slow web applications in React, same as any other framework. Linear is one of the snappiest web applications I've ever used, and it is written in React.

Sure it's possible but those are a handful of exceptions against the norm, when the general approach so easily guides you towards bloat upon bloat that you have to be an expert to actively avoid going down that route.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by wiseowise »

MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

> A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users.

Thank you for the reply, Nick. It wouldn’t be a problem to disable the tracking for authenticated users then, would it?

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by wiseowise »

Imnimo wrote: post #149
MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

Church, politicians, moralists are all the biggest hypocrites that want to teach you something.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by lloydatkinson »

wiseowise wrote: post #422
MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

> A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. Thank you for the reply, Nick. It wouldn’t be a problem to disable the tracking for authenticated users then, would it?

It would because someone's KPI depends on number of tracked users lol

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by red_admiral »

petcat wrote: post #4

> These properties only exist if the ChatGPT React application has fully rendered and hydrated. A headless browser that loads the HTML but doesn't execute the JavaScript bundle won't have them. A bot framework that stubs out browser APIs but doesn't actually run React won't have them. > This is bot detection at the application layer, not the browser layer. I kind of just assumed that all sophisticated bot-detectors a…

"Sophisticated" may vary, but for a lot of EU media products you can just block the script that launches the paywall/consent overlay. Sometimes disabling JS does it; sometimes activating reading mode works.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by RobotToaster »

Imnimo wrote: post #149
MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

"You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen!"

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by vbezhenar »

littlestymaar wrote: post #333
raincole wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite sure even literal thieves would consider thievery a form of abuse.

Yeah, they know it's bad, they just don't think the rules apply to them.

They know that the rules apply to them. They hope that they can avoid being caught.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by Chance-Device »

raincole wrote: post #417
Chance-Device wrote: post #9

Perhaps the author should have made it clearer why we should care about any of this. OpenAI want you to use their real react app. That’s… ok? I skimmed the article looking for the punchline and there doesn’t seem to be one.

Why does every article need a 'punchline'? It's a technical analysis. Do you expect punchlines when you read recipes or source code?

Where did I say “every article”? This is AI slop that’s set up like it’s some investigative expose of something scandalous and then shows us nothing interesting. A competent human writer would have reframed the whole thing or just not published it.
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