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Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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You might want to check out “How it Works” on the site as none of what you said applies: https://typed.by/how

Then why does your link claim the following? > While you type, the keyboard quietly records how you type — the rhythm, the pauses between keys, where your finger lands, how hard you press. > Nobody types the same way. Your pattern is as unique as your handwriting. That's the signal.

Vibe copy is a hell of a drug.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

"Integrity at OpenAI"

Basically an oxymoron at this point.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

Quite sure even literal thieves would consider thievery a form of abuse.

Yeah, they know it's bad, they just don't think the rules apply to them.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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The real frustrating part is that Cloudflare's "definition" of suspicious keeps changing and expanding. VPN users, privacy-first browsers, uncommon IP ranges, they all get flagged. The people most likely to get caught by these systems are exactly the ones who care most about their privacy, and not the bots that they are apparently targeting.

> The people most likely to get caught by these systems are exactly the ones who care most about their privacy, and not the bots that they are apparently targeting. In my brief experience with abuse mitigation, connections coming from VPNs or unusual IP ranges were very significantly more likely to be associated with abuse. It depends on your users. VPNs aren’t common at all, even though you hear about them a lot on…

The solution is for more people to use Tor routinely. Like I'm doing right now.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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> Staying at home is crappier but private. Doesn't make sense, my home is much more preferable to a hotel

With any luck, local models will be too (soon).

My local models didn't get >20h of outage this quarter like Claude did so in a way it's already the case.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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I’ve been getting it in safari too. It’s ridiculous frankly. My residential ip must have been flagged or something. The part that’s really annoying is its trivial for bots to bypass.

> I’ve been getting it in safari too. I'm getting it on iCloud Private Relay all the time. It honestly makes it kind of useless. Maybe that's the point? But then again, doesn't Cloudflare run part of it!? And wasn't there some "privacy-preserving captcha replacement" that iOS devices should already be opting me in to? So many questions, nobody there to answer them, because they can get away with it. > The part that’s…

Cloudflare makes money on both sides. It makes money from Apple to run Private Relay and it makes money from website operators to block Private Relay. It hosts the websites of DDoS services and protects them from DDoS, too.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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But do they do it whether you're logged in or not? I noticed the ChatGPT app also checks Play Integrity on Android (because GrapheneOS snitches on apps when they do this), probably for the same reason. Claude's app doesn't, by the way, but it also requires a login.

Because accounts are free, and could still be used to abuse as a free endpoint, with a little trickiness.

Don't you need a Google account and to get a Google account you need a phone number?

"You're posting too fast! Please slow down."

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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post #149

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It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things. The former relies on fairly controversial ideas about copyright and fair use to qualify as abuse, whereas the latter is direct financial damage – by your own direct competitors no less. It's fun to poke at a seeming hypocrisy of the big bad, but the similarity…

> Scraping static content

How do you know the content is static?

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Which VPNs are people using that actually care about the user's privacy? Most of them don't, sell their home IP to buyers, sell their DNS history to others, etc. Worse, some of them could require invasive MITM cert stuff most users will just click yes through. I have yet to see a use case for VPNs for the casual internet audience, and for a tech savvy user, their better off renting through some datacenter or somethin…

> Which VPNs are people using that actually care about the user's privacy? Mullvad. It has been proven in a court of law that when Mullvad says "no logging", they mean it. They also regularly have security audits and publish the results[2][3] [1] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/mullvad-vpn-was-subject-to-a-sea... [2] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/new-security-audit-of-account-an... [3] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/successfu…

Seconding Mullvad. I am paranoid and I think they're trustworthy

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

Chatgpt banned me after I said disparaging things about Sam Altman in a chat.

When I appealed the ban, I was told that I couldn't be told exactly why I was banned, but if I wrote a written apology and "promised to never do it again" my ban could be appealed.

I asked for an update on the ban via email every month for over a year.

Maybe you could tell me a little bit about that process?

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