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Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by arrowsmith » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:22 AM UTC

josefx wrote: post #245

monocularvision wrote: post #239

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You might want to check out “How it Works” on the site as none of what you said applies: https://typed.by/how

Then why does your link claim the following? > While you type, the keyboard quietly records how you type — the rhythm, the pauses between keys, where your finger lands, how hard you press. > Nobody types the same way. Your pattern is as unique as your handwriting. That's the signal.

I’m sceptical about this idea but, to give it full credit, it’s a custom piece of hardware that would presumably be more accurate than previous software-only attempts. Maybe it will actually work this time, idk, although I still don’t really see the point.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by pixl97 » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:22 AM UTC

3form wrote: post #166

tshaddox wrote: post #163

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Is anyone talking about the fact that this is a fundamental design flaw of the web? Or arguably even the entire Internet?

It's hard to call something a "fundamental flaw of web" if it wasn't an issue for 30 years. Unless you mean something more general that I'm missing.

A flaw can be fundamental but not immediate. It's probably better to say it's a fundamental flaw of the open web, that is the system collapses as the number of bad actors increases, and there is no way to prevent bad actors and have the system keep the name as open web.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by qingcharles » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:27 AM UTC

NSPG911 wrote: post #183

I was using KeepChatGPT[1] for a while back in 2023-2024, pre-Gemini-in-Google era, and I was fascinated as to how it was able to mask being a user without needing any API or help from the end user. I stopped using it after 2024 because 1) Gemini and 2) It breaks quite a lot. I did however, like how you had an option to push the AI panel to the right, if only Google even considers doing so. [1]: https://github.com/xc…

I have a little helper app I run sometimes that I have a button to push a query into ChatGPT and get a json response. You wouldn't even know OpenAI had any anti-bot tools because it doesn't get flagged at all. It just uses a webview inside WinForms.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by wilg » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:28 AM UTC

tomalbrc wrote: post #247

wilg wrote: post #213

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robots.txt bro https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/bots/

"bro": https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-anthropic-ai-ignore-r...

should be pretty easy to test and not rely on an anonymous source from a weird analytics company via business insider. are these bots actually from openai or are they just using their user agent? are they coming from openai ip ranges? etc. https://openai.com/gptbot.json

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by alsetmusic » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:33 AM UTC

nikitaga wrote: post #217

Imnimo wrote: post #149

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It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things. The former relies on fairly controversial ideas about copyright and fair use to qualify as abuse, whereas the latter is direct financial damage – by your own direct competitors no less. It's fun to poke at a seeming hypocrisy of the big bad, but the similarity…

Have you not seen the multiple posts that have reached the front page of HN with people taking self-hosted Git repos offline or having their personal blogs hammered to hell? Cause if you haven't, they definitely exist and get voted up by the community.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by nozzlegear » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:35 AM UTC

nikitaga wrote: post #217

Imnimo wrote: post #149

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It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things. The former relies on fairly controversial ideas about copyright and fair use to qualify as abuse, whereas the latter is direct financial damage – by your own direct competitors no less. It's fun to poke at a seeming hypocrisy of the big bad, but the similarity…

Are they, actually?

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by sandeepkd » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:36 AM UTC

nikitaga wrote: post #217

Imnimo wrote: post #149

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It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things. The former relies on fairly controversial ideas about copyright and fair use to qualify as abuse, whereas the latter is direct financial damage – by your own direct competitors no less. It's fun to poke at a seeming hypocrisy of the big bad, but the similarity…

Lets not try to qualify the wrongs by picking a metric and evaluating just one side of it. A static website owner could be running with a very small budget and the scraping from bots can bring down their business too. The chances of a static website owner burning through their own life savings are probably higher.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by nozzlegear » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:39 AM UTC

mememememememo wrote: post #157

everdrive wrote: post #69

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It's getting to the point where a user needs at minimum two browsers. One to allow all this horrendous client checking so that crucial services work, and another browser to attempt to prevent tracking users across the web. Nick, I understand the practical realities regarding why you'd need to try to tamp down on some bot traffic, but do you see a world where users are not forced to choose between privacy and function…

Local models for privacy. You want to go to the world's best hotel? You are gonna be on their CCTV. Staying at home is crappier but private. Unfortunately for the first time moores law isn't helping (e.g. give a poor person an old laptop and install linux they will be fine). They can do that and all good except no LLM.

> Staying at home is crappier but private.

Doesn't make sense, my home is much more preferable to a hotel

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by heyethan » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:41 AM UTC

nikitaga wrote: post #217

Imnimo wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to me that OpenAI considers scraping to be a form of abuse.

Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things. The former relies on fairly controversial ideas about copyright and fair use to qualify as abuse, whereas the latter is direct financial damage – by your own direct competitors no less. It's fun to poke at a seeming hypocrisy of the big bad, but the similarity…

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Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by stingraycharles » Mon, Mar 30, 2026, 2:41 AM UTC

not2b wrote: post #248

nikitaga wrote: post #217

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Scraping static content from a website at near-zero marginal cost to its server, vs scraping an expensive LLM service provided for free, are different things. The former relies on fairly controversial ideas about copyright and fair use to qualify as abuse, whereas the latter is direct financial damage – by your own direct competitors no less. It's fun to poke at a seeming hypocrisy of the big bad, but the similarity…

I understand why OpenAI is trying to reduce its costs, but it simply isn't true that AI crawlers aren't creating very significant load, especially those crawlers that ignore robots.txt and hide their identities. This is direct financial damage and it's particularly hard on nonprofit sites that have been around a long time.

These are ChatGPT and Claude Desktop crawlers we’re talking about? Or what is it exactly? Are these really creating significant load while not honoring robots.txt?

Genuinely interested.