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Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by vkou »

MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

> Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform.

How can first-party products protect themselves from abuse by OpenAI's bots and scraping?

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by quotemstr »

MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

We really need ZKPs of humanity

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by [deleted] »

MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

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Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

#104

Post by thisisnow »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #80
evilduck wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using any popular datacenter's IP range for a personal VPN is likely to be outright blocked.

Also you only get 1 IP so its not really anonymous and you definitely would have a fingerprint.

you just rotate it?

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by FergusArgyll »

appreciatorBus wrote: post #13
simonw wrote: post #6

Presumably this is all because OpenAI offers free ChatGPT to logged out users and don't want that being abused as a free API endpoint.

Yup. Coincidentally about an hour ago, I wanted to look something up in ChatGPT and I happened to be in a browser window I don’t normally use, with no logged in accounts. I assumed it wouldn’t work, but to my surprise with no account, no cookies of any kind it took my query and gave me an answer.

Yeah it works but it's a dumber model. Prob mini

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by thisisnow »

traceroute66 wrote: post #92
whatisthiseven wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which VPNs are people using that actually care about the user's privacy? Most of them don't, sell their home IP to buyers, sell their DNS history to others, etc. Worse, some of them could require invasive MITM cert stuff most users will just click yes through. I have yet to see a use case for VPNs for the casual internet audience, and for a tech savvy user, their better off renting through some datacenter or somethin…

> Which VPNs are people using that actually care about the user's privacy? Mullvad. It has been proven in a court of law that when Mullvad says "no logging", they mean it. They also regularly have security audits and publish the results[2][3] [1] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/mullvad-vpn-was-subject-to-a-sea... [2] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/new-security-audit-of-account-an... [3] https://mullvad.net/en/blog/successfu…

Second for Mullvad, I am quite distrusting in general but more I know about Mullvad, more I am convinced they really are serious about user privacy

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by the_gipsy »

MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

But is the title true, is typing specifically blocked? Or does it just block submitting the text?

I ask because I have seen huge variations in load time. Sometimes I had to wait seconds until being able to type. Nowadays it seems better though.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by mzajc »

magicseth wrote: post #99
0x3f wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meet me in a cafe and I will sign a JWT saying you're not a bot. You can submit this to whoever will accept it.

If apple approves it, ive got a solution: A keyboardthat attests to your humanity https://typed.by/magicseth/2451#2NyGLfAQxmqRiAOTlaX7ma3G4d1o...

Brilliant! Just the thing we want: more hardware attestation, more deanonymization, less user control, all diligently orchestrated in a repository where the only contributor is Anthropic Claude [0]. Comes complete with a misaligned ASCII diagram in the README to show how much effort the humans behind it put in!

Yes, even their "humanifesto" is LLM output, and is written almost exclusively in the "it's not X it's Y" style.

[0]: https://github.com/magicseth/keywitness/graphs/contributors

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by pera »

dev1ycan wrote: post #89
MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

"abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform" This has to be a joke, right?

I really can't tell for sure (new user posting a ridiculously hypocritical corporate message on a Sunday) but if GP actually works for OpenAI the lack of self-awareness is seriously striking
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