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ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by EGreg »

lxgr wrote: post #14

It's absurd how unusable Cloudflare is making the web when using a browser or IP address they consider "suspicious". I've lately been drowning in captchas for the crime of using Firefox. All in the interest of "bot protection", of course.

Well, that's for the public internet.

I'm building Safebox and Safecloud, where this won't be the case anymore. Not only will you have a decentralized hosting network that can sideload resources (e.g. via a browser extension that looks at your "integrity" attribute on websites) but also the websites will require you to be logged in with a HMAC-signed session ID (which means they don't need to do any I/O to reject your requests, and can do so quickly)... so the whole thing comes down to having a logged in account.

https://github.com/Safebots/Safecloud

As far as server-to-server requests, they'll be coming from a growing network of cryptographically attested TPMs (Nitro in AWS, also available in GCP, IBM, Azure, Oracle etc.) so they'll just reject based on attestations also.

In short... the cryptographically attested web of trust will mean you won't need cloudflare. What you will need, however, to prevent sybil attacks, is age verification of accounts (e.g. Telegram ID is a proxy for that if you use Telegram for authentication).

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by superkuh »

beering wrote: post #11
superkuh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't look like it in the full sense of "free". But part of how one pays these services is by running a permissive modern browser which allows the corporation to spy on you even when you already paid in currency. In a sense by depriving them of the ability to easily spy on your this workaround is closer to "free".

They already see everything I’m doing because I send my prompts to them. What “workaround” are you referring to?

They see everything your doing because you send the text. But this is talking about everything about your computer system. You would not normally be sending this to them or having it involved at all. This workaround allows you to not involve unneeded information about your computer setup. It is not about avoiding sending prompt text.

And as for "but chatgpt isn't paid" (another commenter), well, then yes, that's even closer to free by removing this spying on your computer setup. But they spy on the paid users too.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by password4321 »

EGreg wrote: post #21
lxgr wrote: post #14

It's absurd how unusable Cloudflare is making the web when using a browser or IP address they consider "suspicious". I've lately been drowning in captchas for the crime of using Firefox. All in the interest of "bot protection", of course.

Well, that's for the public internet. I'm building Safebox and Safecloud, where this won't be the case anymore. Not only will you have a decentralized hosting network that can sideload resources (e.g. via a browser extension that looks at your "integrity" attribute on websites) but also the websites will require you to be logged in with a HMAC-signed session ID (which means they don't need to do any I/O to reject you…

Wow, if Seinfeld can have a soup nazi, I think it's within reason for you to be called the internet nazi.

"No s̶o̶u̶p̶ internet for you!"

Good luck!

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by danielheath »

lxgr wrote: post #14

It's absurd how unusable Cloudflare is making the web when using a browser or IP address they consider "suspicious". I've lately been drowning in captchas for the crime of using Firefox. All in the interest of "bot protection", of course.

Maybe check your network isn't sending web traffic you're not aware of?

I'm running firefox and seeing the normal amount.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by conradkay »

onion2k wrote: post #19
lxgr wrote: post #14

It's absurd how unusable Cloudflare is making the web when using a browser or IP address they consider "suspicious". I've lately been drowning in captchas for the crime of using Firefox. All in the interest of "bot protection", of course.

Is that because botnets spoof being Firefox? It's not really fair to blame Cloudflare it is. That's on the bots.

Not really, there's camoufox but the vast majority use modified chrome/chromium

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by refulgentis »

If you have AI write a blog post for ya, when you think it's set, check word count (can c+p to google docs if AI can't pull it off with built in tools), and ask it to identify repetitions if it's over 1000.

Also, you can have it spotcheck colors: light orange on light background is unreadable, ask it to find the L*[1] of colors and dark/lighten as necessary if gap I haven't tried this yet, but, maybe have it count word count-per-header too. It's got 11 headers for 1000 words currently, makes reading feel really stacatto and you gotta evaluate "is this a real transition or vibetransition"

[1] L* as in L*a*b*, not L in Oklab

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by MarioMan »

poly2it wrote: post #18
londons_explore wrote: post #12

I just don't understand why bot owners can't just run a complete windows 11 VM running Google Chrome complete with graphics acceleration. You can probably run 50 of those simultaneously if you use memory page deduplication, and with a decent CPU+GPU you ought to be able to render 50 pages a second. That's 1 cent per thousand page loads on AWS. Damn cheap.

If you know of a simple way to run a Windows 11 VM with good graphics acceleration (no GPU passthrough), please contact me.

I assume your concern with GPU passthrough is that each VM needs a whole GPU? You can use GPU-PV to split your GPU between VM instances. Then the main bottleneck becomes how thin you split out your VRAM.

More info here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20231107182321/https://mu0.cc/20...

https://youtu.be/XLLcc29EZ_8?t=570

https://github.com/jamesstringer90/Easy-GPU-PV

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