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Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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Post by Our_Benefactors »

salawat wrote: post #30
Our_Benefactors wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Try running yourself a local model on a sufficiently beefy laptop I don't understand why you think the solution to using a well tuned and intelligent model is to use one that is a dumbass

As the parachutist says to the pilot: "I'll stop jumping out of perfectly good airplanes as soon as they start making them." I've fiddled with enough hosted ones enough to know the hosted solution's value add is almost entirely in the hardware stack it takes to serve inference traffic at scale, and whatever that company decides "alignment" means. The major quality is found in asking the right question, and getting th…

Lots of cope here about how the inferior tool is actually better.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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Post by oulipo2 »

iainctduncan wrote: post #17
rsrsrs86 wrote: post #11

Yeh the guy is going nuts. His whole job analysis thing is ridiculous. To me, it tells the guy has no critical sense, because this kind of paper would ruin the career of any economist.

To me me he's just another example of a very smart programmer being really bad at seeing big pictures, imagining from other perspectives, and generally having people/systems/economics/philosophy wisdom. Unfortunately it seems endemic in our field. So many great coders have this laughably naive belief that, because they are good at something that makes them feel like a genius when they solve problems, they are in fact…

Exactly. A big issue with "engineers" who are taught in school to be "problem-solvers" using a definite set of tools that they have to master, rather than "question-askers" with a mentality of poets and researchers, like we're taught in university

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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Post by lgl »

nozzlegear wrote: post #14
netsharc wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If my brain got a 100x overclock (both on speed and endurance), I'd be excited to use it all the time too. The issue is obviously AI isn't that, it's a simulation of that that often fails...

> If my brain got a 100x overclock (both on speed and endurance), I'd be excited to use it all the time too. Ted Chiang's Understand comes to mind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understand_(story)

Brilliant, highly recommended short story! Ted Chiang rarely disappoints.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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Post by cyanydeez »

Our_Benefactors wrote: post #18
salawat wrote: post #3

Here's the thing. You're kind of dopamine hacking yourself. Using current LLM's is something akin to using a slot machine, and one specifically tuned to work on/predate on knowledge workers. The fact is, while it can talk a good game, and has been RLHF'd to high heaven to validate you all the bloody time to keep you engaged and burning tokens , your brain is simply tuned to reward any semblance of progress, and you g…

> Try running yourself a local model on a sufficiently beefy laptop I don't understand why you think the solution to using a well tuned and intelligent model is to use one that is a dumbass

When was the last time you tried a local model? You might actually be addicted to a dumb model that's just very quick at everything, which is what the GP is positing.

I've got the QWEN3.5 coder running and it's dumb, but if the task is 'clone this component and rewrite it to testWhatever' it does it perfectly well.

One might thing you're falling for the delusion being posited in this thread and you don't have a proper benchmark. You're just getting that token hit.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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Post by cyanydeez »

AbanoubRodolf wrote: post #28
al_borland wrote: post #7

If your assistant is causing you to work more hours and only sleeping 4 hours per night, is it really a good assistant? I think I'd be firing an assistant that did that to my life. I'm a big believer is not just doing something because I can. Could AI build me a personal suite of apps to manage my life in the exact way I want... maybe? Should I spend my time doing that, even if AI is writing 100% of the code? Probabl…

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I can't tell, do you think Karpathy is actually making progress, or is he spinning wheels into arbitrary dimensions that have no fundamental connection to progress in the field?

The interesting thing about the LLM is it can spit out so many near-misses that it is a powerful gambling thing; but it's only gambling if you're not winning. Just like the stockmarket can be a rational excercise in finding undervalued stocks and providing liquid knowledge by extracting the value.

So that's probably the argument ensuing: Are the majority of people using LLMs to "play the stocks" as gamblers or as rational analysts.

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