say no to palantir in america too
they're giving startups an awful name in the eyes of the people, supposedly by the guy teaching others how to do startups, good grief
Say No to Palantir in Europe
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#22> A powerful company enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran. Ah yes, European issues
It's a European issue because we look to the US and now appreciate more than ever the need to introduce barriers to stop temporary fascist governments doing the same permanent damage they have done in the US. Our democratic systems are just as vulnerable to populist leaders taking power. One of those barriers we must erect is the elimination of corporation with unfettered access to institutional data that can be used…
It's quite odd how Europeans will see and describe themselves only in terms of being a US vassal.
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#23I wonder what the alternative for Europe might be? A new project to launch, or is there an existing solution? Siren? Argon? In any case, it could be a great opportunity for Europe to create new jobs whilst increasing its sovereignty.
d.AP, itemis, datawalk, helsing.
There are a few alternatives, depending what you want.
Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe
#24I wonder what the alternative for Europe might be? A new project to launch, or is there an existing solution? Siren? Argon? In any case, it could be a great opportunity for Europe to create new jobs whilst increasing its sovereignty.
Palantir's technology, as its own name suggests, is inherently dangerous, regardless of who controls it. The right alternative is to simply not build capabilities similar to Palantir in the EU - ideally, to legally forbid building them at all. This type of aggregated data flow simply gives too much control to whoever has access to it, and thus greatly harms democracy.
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Public opinion can def have effect if you live in a democracy. Politicians rather pay more for something else if they think it will help them / avoid hurt them. Might not work in America though.
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#26No to Palantir in Europe
So you used voice dictation?
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#27>> Palantir enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran.
Out of technical curiosity,where do we find more on how Palatir is helping technically?.
Types of ML jobs they are running?
Open source or AI models they are using.
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They help raise awareness but, true, only work in conjunction with other actions.
Fortunately, I am aware of some of those other actions. E.g. pro bono legals taking the fight on, etc.
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#29I wonder what the alternative for Europe might be? A new project to launch, or is there an existing solution? Siren? Argon? In any case, it could be a great opportunity for Europe to create new jobs whilst increasing its sovereignty.
Why?
why would we need to fund and make Europen Alternative to Surveilance (tm) when we could just you know - not have it at all?
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#30Petitions don’t do much on their own, but they’re often how pressure starts. And ‘not European issues’ feels off when these companies operate globally anyway.
Pressure is building, thankfully. It's not just petitions now, but legal groups getting involved, etc. At least in the UK. Hopefully it spreads like wildfire around Europe. The orange Oompa Loompa is likely helping kindle those flames nicely.