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Say No to Palantir in Europe

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Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#11
Sure, Europe should absolutely be saying no to Palantir.

However

> A powerful company enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran

So does Google, so does Meta, so does Oracle. What do you think all that Palantir software runs on in the clouds? On Palantir's own huge datacenters? They don'thave those. The huge bulk of it runs on it on clouds provided my Microsoft, Amazon, Google.

Meta in particular causes such ridiculously larger amounts of societal damage that focusing so much energy on Palantir specifically is a dead giveaway it's not really about harm caused, it's about optics. Because they themselves likely use WhatsApp and Instagram, yet they don't knowingly use Palantir products.

If you're going to single out one US tech company as "we need to stop cooperating with them", I don't see how it can be any other than Meta. It's like telling someone morbidly obese to stop eating a single cookie per day rather than the 5 cheese pizzas they're also having. Maybe the cookie is slightly worse per gram, but it's also completely ineffective to focus on.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#12
post #5

> A powerful company enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran. Ah yes, European issues

Things Palantir does in other countries is fine cause for not wanting it deployed in your own

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Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#13
post #5

> A powerful company enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran. Ah yes, European issues

Not yet because they’re not operating in Europe yet.

There are enough far-right (and generally Putin-aligned, like Hungary) forces on the continent that they’d love to feed.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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post #13
post #5

> A powerful company enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran. Ah yes, European issues

Not yet because they’re not operating in Europe yet. There are enough far-right (and generally Putin-aligned, like Hungary) forces on the continent that they’d love to feed.

> Not yet because they’re not operating in Europe yet.

They're definitely operating in Europe. They literally have 15 offices scattered around.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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post #5

> A powerful company enables genocide in Gaza, helps ICE separate families, and fuels Trump’s war with Iran. Ah yes, European issues

It's a European issue because we look to the US and now appreciate more than ever the need to introduce barriers to stop temporary fascist governments doing the same permanent damage they have done in the US. Our democratic systems are just as vulnerable to populist leaders taking power. One of those barriers we must erect is the elimination of corporation with unfettered access to institutional data that can be used by fascist governments to maintain or grow their power base.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#16
I wonder what the alternative for Europe might be? A new project to launch, or is there an existing solution? Siren? Argon? In any case, it could be a great opportunity for Europe to create new jobs whilst increasing its sovereignty.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

#17

I wonder what the alternative for Europe might be? A new project to launch, or is there an existing solution? Siren? Argon? In any case, it could be a great opportunity for Europe to create new jobs whilst increasing its sovereignty.

Even if it's nothing that would be a big win.
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