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Post by tempodox »

Simulacra wrote: post #63
hammock wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should private plane passengers be subject to TSA? TSA (paid for by you and me by the way, not for free) exists to protect the public from harm, on public flights by common carriers. It used to be contracted by airlines themselves. Unless you are the most extreme of pro-seatbelt law people, it would make little sense for TSA to screen anyone on a private plane manifest unless the client asked them to.

This reminds me of when Steve Job's had his ninja throwing stars confiscated by (airport security) getting on his private jet. Edited to clarify NOT TSA

The danger of Steve Jobs hijacking his own private plane was obviously quite high! We can only thank the dutiful TSA officers for their brave service. I’m sure they risked their lives averting this danger. Have they been awarded any medals yet?

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Post by fhdkweig »

gsibble wrote: post #39

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Technology businesses need to fly employees around. Most airline traffic is for business not pleasure. I knew a guy who worked sales at IBM who practically lived at the airport.

I also like articles like this because I learn from the discussions from other commenters.

In the worst case, if I am not interested in the topic, I just move on to one of the other posts. I deliberately skip over the LLM posts, but I don't tell them to stop discussing it just because it isn't of interest to me. I'm not that self centered. There is enough space on the internet for everyone's discussion.

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Post by convolvatron »

gruez wrote: post #68
convolvatron wrote: post #37

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its seems far more likely that they are just playing politics as sport. that is they are quite content to cause suffering if they can point the finger at the other team. just like the snap monies in the last shutdown.

>just like the snap monies in the last shutdown. You know, prior to this sentence "they" could have referred to either party. After all, the last shutdown was largely because the Democrats were fighting for ACA subsidy extensions, but I guess it's only "playing politics as sport" when you don't agree with the justification?

this is the problem isn't it? this is supposed to be why trump co is running the country. that governance has collapsed and they were supposed to refocus it on things that's mattered. see how that's going.

but yes, I think the result is that we have even less effective governance then we had a year ago. and I find it pretty troubling that the narrative that's being actively reinforced is that we really don't need to bother with the legislative process anymore since they are obviously completely useless

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Post by BobaFloutist »

Someone1234 wrote: post #33
nubg wrote: post #20

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buffers salaries?

A strange way of saying, not TSA at all, and handled by a private for-profit company instead.

No, it's accurate, because TSA (or at least the feds) ultimately pay for it, but the company has some runway it can spend to keep the employees working on the assumption it'll be paid later, I.E. a buffer.

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Post by Simulacra »

cogman10 wrote: post #78
Simulacra wrote: post #65

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Negative. It was passed with unanimous consent, there was only maybe five people there. I think that's a big difference between "passed" which gives the connotation that people actually voted on it, "unanimous consent" of the present. It was also at 2 o'clock in the morning

You make this sound like it was a democrat plot, it was not. Thune, the republican senate majority leader, was the one that put up the unanimous consent motion. There were more than just 5 people there. Though it was late at night. You can't push something through unanimous consent if there's not a quorum. That requires at least 51% of each party to be present. Now, it's possible they waited until some of the big obj…

I made no claim as to party, it's just how it was done. If anything it was the Republicans who are the majority. I wanted to clarify that it was by unanimous consent, not a recorded vote.

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Post by gruez »

otterley wrote: post #80
gruez wrote: post #79

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>Would you mind answering the question, please, instead of embarking on a side quest? Funny you're accusing me of derailing the topic when in my initial comment I specifically mentioned I wasn't interested in arguing over the merits of those reforms >[...] Even if you're sympathetic to those reforms [...] And for the record, in case you wanted to interpret my refusal of discussing that topic as some sort of sign I'm…

Then why are you even participating in the discussion? You can’t have your cake and eat it, too. Don’t enter a ring if you can’t take a punch.

So if you want to derail the discussion it's "Don’t enter a ring if you can’t take a punch", but when I do it, it's "... instead of embarking on a side quest"?

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

hammock wrote: post #54
frankbreetz wrote: post #46

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The TSA was created because a plane crashed into a building. Private planes can crash into buildings. Why should they be exempt from TSA checks?

Lots of things can crash into buildings. Should they all be screened by TSA? Drones and their operators prior to every launch? 30 minute helicopter tours and high-rise HVAC drop offs? Private satellites? Or is licensing and registration (of pilots and aircraft and manifest and flight plan) enough?

Governments are reactive. So if any of these other things ever successfully destroy a building then you can absolutely count on new rules and laws that, at a minimum, will include screening.

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Post by cogman10 »

Simulacra wrote: post #85
cogman10 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You make this sound like it was a democrat plot, it was not. Thune, the republican senate majority leader, was the one that put up the unanimous consent motion. There were more than just 5 people there. Though it was late at night. You can't push something through unanimous consent if there's not a quorum. That requires at least 51% of each party to be present. Now, it's possible they waited until some of the big obj…

I made no claim as to party, it's just how it was done. If anything it was the Republicans who are the majority. I wanted to clarify that it was by unanimous consent, not a recorded vote.

Fair enough. But I do still have to push back on the notion that it was just 5 people there. If that were the case, you could have expected one of the more lucid members to have done a quorum call.

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Post by fhdkweig »

gruez wrote: post #71
Spooky23 wrote: post #16

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In the Senate. You are correct. The Speaker of the House is a toady who is held in line in the house by a small cabal of super MAGA people. Given some of his unusual personal situations, (for one, he supposedly has no bank account or financial assets) there’s likely a blackmail situation. His supine nature is also probably the strategy for the “3rd term” loophole.

>Given some of his unusual personal situations, (for one, he supposedly has no bank account or financial assets) there’s likely a blackmail situation 1. source on the bank account claim? 2. I don't think you need to involve theories that he's being financially blackmailed, when it's pretty clear that Trump has a tight grip over the Republican party, and isn't afraid to attack or back primary challengers for Republica…

This search yields a lot of results. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mike+johnson+bank+accounts

The one at CNN is the more interesting one. It says that he has a bank account but isn't required to disclose it "because it isn't an interest bearing account".

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/09/politics/mike-johnson-finance...

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