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I decompiled the White House's new app

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Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

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Looks like what you might expect in a standard marketing app from a consultancy. They probably hired someone to develop it, that shop used their standard app architecure which includes location tracking code and the other stuff.

That's exactly what 45Press is. They won a 1.5mil contract to spit out this tripe (tbf the contract includes other wh.gov support).

Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

#132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if someone can issue the certificate signed by the CA your phone trust. Imagine being in a cafe nearby, say, embassy of the certain north African country known for pervasive and wide espionage actions, which decides to hijack traffic in this cafe. Or imagine living in the country where almost all of the cabinet is literally (officially) being paid by the propaganda/lobbying body of such country. Or living int he…

This is stopped by certificate transparency logs. Your software should refuse to accept a certificate which hasn’t been logged in the transparency logs, and if a rogue CA issues a fraudulent certificate, it will be detected.

Certificate transparency doesn't prevent misissuance, it only makes detection easier after the fact. Someone still needs to be monitoring CT and revoke the cert. I actually believe most HTTP stacks on Android don't even check cert revocations by default.

Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

#133

The argument regarding no certificate pinning seems to miss that just because I might be on a network that MITM's TLS traffic doesn't mean my device trusts the random CA used by the proxy. I'd just get a TLS error, right?

that argument also misses because it is based on old best practices which are no longer relevant.

Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

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Every default setup on every website and app for the last five or so years has been encouraging users to add pronouns, making it difficult to avoid it, even my iPhone asks me to add each person’s pronouns when I add a new contact. I don’t know why Siri needs to know that, but it’s there. There’s one website I use that won’t let you sign up as a contributor without “completing your profile”, which includes mandatory p…

Well, it's past the edit window, and of course I accept the downvotes, but I realize that I should have provided a bit more context.

In the US, the faction in power right now is attacking perceived symbols of "woke" ideology, and one of them is the use of pronouns.

As I understand it, some government agencies are even forbidding the use of pronouns in e-mail signatures etc. So it struck me as ironic that a software component with pronouns would have evaded their notice.

I have no problem with the use of pronouns.

Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

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post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there is a quadrillion trusted CAs in every device you might use. A good chunk of these CAs have been compromised at one point or another, and rogue certificates are sold in the dark market. Also any goverment can coerce a domiciled CA to issue certs for their needs.

If you go down this path you argue desktop browsing https is broken, which i dont think is a serious argument.

Well yes, CAs and the ICANN model of DNS are intertwined and fundamentally broken in multiple ways. However the system as a whole is largely "good enough" as can be seen from its broad success under highly adversarial conditions in the real world.

Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

#136

Looks like what you might expect in a standard marketing app from a consultancy. They probably hired someone to develop it, that shop used their standard app architecure which includes location tracking code and the other stuff.

  "Visit TrumpRx.gov"
Holy crap, the grift never ends! Is he even allowed to do that, use a .gov address to peddle dodgy meds?

Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if someone can issue the certificate signed by the CA your phone trust. Imagine being in a cafe nearby, say, embassy of the certain north African country known for pervasive and wide espionage actions, which decides to hijack traffic in this cafe. Or imagine living in the country where almost all of the cabinet is literally (officially) being paid by the propaganda/lobbying body of such country. Or living int he…

This is stopped by certificate transparency logs. Your software should refuse to accept a certificate which hasn’t been logged in the transparency logs, and if a rogue CA issues a fraudulent certificate, it will be detected.

I don't believe it's supposed to proactively check the logs as that would inevitably break in the presence of properly configured MITM middleboxes which are present on many (most?) corporate networks.

The point of the logs as I understand it is to surface events involving official CAs after the fact.

Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

#138

A bit skeptical of how this article is written as it seems to be mostly written by AI. Out of curiosity, I downloaded the app and it doesn't request location permissions anywhere, despite the claims in the article. I've noticed Claude Code is happy to decompile APKs for you but isn't very good at doing reachability analysis or figuring out complex control flows. It will treat completely dead code as important as a co…

I think you should make proper counter arguments instead of dismissing something because they used a specific tool.

Ad-HomineLLM is a logical fallacy IMO and adds little value. I would hope eventually HN and other sites add this to the guidelines similar to other claims like vote manipulation etc.

Re: I decompiled the White House's new app

#140

Looks like what you might expect in a standard marketing app from a consultancy. They probably hired someone to develop it, that shop used their standard app architecure which includes location tracking code and the other stuff.

If only the US Digital Service still existed as an agency to do this right. Too bad it's now been hollowed out to be DOGE, subject to multiple active lawsuits.

What are your taxes paying for?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Digital_Service

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