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Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by LtWorf » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 2:46 AM UTC

gonzalohm wrote: post #69

haunter wrote: post #57

I usually use Linux and Windows (pretty much split 50/50) and tbh this is why I never could switch to Mac full time even though I've have had and still have several Macs at home. The full screen beahavior is weird. Is the dock should overlay every single window all the time? If not then why is the dock not hidden by default? If yes then full screen is actually "maximum size app window without overlaying the dock"? Wh…

What about the minimize and maximize buttons being swapped without any way to customize it. That one drives me crazy.

Come to kde, you can customise everything

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by LtWorf » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 2:47 AM UTC

rc_kas wrote: post #209

rafram wrote: post #4

This isn’t a part of macOS 26 that bothers me, honestly. I don’t spend a lot of time stacking windows and measuring their corners.

I truly hate it, so so much. Mentally I'm already planning out what OS I'm going to migrate to.

Try both gnome and kde if you come on linux, and remember that on kde you can customize anything you don't like.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by jonhohle » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 2:58 AM UTC

_jab wrote: post #9

Between the rounded corners that don't reach the edges of the viewport, and the behavior when opening a new app for the first time, it feels like Mac's UI is optimized around the assumption most users won't expand windows to fill the whole screen, but rather leave them half-sized somewhere in the middle. Does anyone actually do this? Especially for heavy-duty applications like my web browser and IDE, this has always…

I never understood running apps in full screen. Unless it's an IDE, Video Editor, or some other app with tools filling all nooks and crannies, I want windows that fit the content. I don't want to launch a text or document editor in full screen, read a PDF in full screen. Typically I don't even want to watch a video full screen. I also generally don't want tiling. I want to arrange windows with parts peeking out behind other windows to reference while I'm working on something else. I want some sense of "space" related to where I left a window.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by contextfree » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 2:59 AM UTC

ablob wrote: post #46

amarant wrote: post #16

I must say that all this fuzz about the corners actually reflects rather well on macos. If the biggest flaw of a OS is the border radius of its windows, you've got yourself a pretty decent OS! It's not gonna make me leave my darling Linux, ofc, but i think this whole debacle can only be interpreted as praise. On second thought, it might also be considered a mediation on people's tendency to bike-shed.

> If the biggest flaw of a OS is the border radius of its windows, you've got yourself a pretty decent OS! This argument would also make Windows 11 a pretty decent OS by extension via "If the biggest flaw of a OS is the position of the start menu you've got yourself a pretty decent OS". In general I could use any minor nuisance as a proof of decency - or inject some to form this argument on purpose as a manufacturer.…

On the specific issue of window corner roundedness, Windows 11 is great IMO. The corners are rounded when the window is floating free, but change to square when it's maximized or snapped to a side of the screen. The perfect design.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by troad » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 3:21 AM UTC

eru wrote: post #233

plandis wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MacOS has a built in 4x4 window tiling which works for this purpose for me. I don’t find ever wanting more than 4 windows open on an ultrawide. Definitely not as powerful as something like xmonad but useful for the majority of my use cases.

Windows also has this kind of tiling built-in. It even comes with default keyboard shortcuts.

So does Mac: https://support.apple.com/en-us/guide/mac-help/mchl9674d0b0/....

Obnoxiously, it's part of the recent trend of overloading the Globe/Fn key, so it's hard to do with third-party keyboards.

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by technical_sway » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 3:24 AM UTC

I'm sure they'll try to market this as a feature so you can see how many windows you have open

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by wholinator2 » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 3:24 AM UTC

eru wrote: post #233

plandis wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MacOS has a built in 4x4 window tiling which works for this purpose for me. I don’t find ever wanting more than 4 windows open on an ultrawide. Definitely not as powerful as something like xmonad but useful for the majority of my use cases.

Windows also has this kind of tiling built-in. It even comes with default keyboard shortcuts.

Here to say ubuntu's got it built in as well

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by JSR_FDED » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 3:31 AM UTC

markdown wrote: post #227

drivers99 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish Mac had the same ability natively Hover over the green button in the top left of the window. I recently found out about that menu for moving a window between screens, which is also an option it has. (I also just found them in the Window menu if you prefer that. I dont; the options take an extra level of hovering to get to.)

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Don't be a child

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by nomel » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 4:03 AM UTC

zarzavat wrote: post #237

People obsess about SIP but just remember that SIP does nothing to prevent the most common type of malware (ransomware). If you use SIP and use package managers (npm, cargo, pip, etc) outside of a VM you are substantially more vulnerable to attack than someone who doesn't use SIP and doesn't use package managers. So if you want to fix your corners, you can do it guilt-free by adopting some better security practices a…

Sure, if you run software from strangers on the internet, while explicitly giving them access to your systems, bad things can happen. But SIP is definitely a net good that makes many things directly impossible.

Do you have a system in mind that prevents the user from doing this?

Re: Make macOS consistently bad unironically

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Post by MrDrMcCoy » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 4:18 AM UTC

brailsafe wrote: post #201

haunter wrote: post #57

I usually use Linux and Windows (pretty much split 50/50) and tbh this is why I never could switch to Mac full time even though I've have had and still have several Macs at home. The full screen beahavior is weird. Is the dock should overlay every single window all the time? If not then why is the dock not hidden by default? If yes then full screen is actually "maximum size app window without overlaying the dock"? Wh…

Seems like it just depends what you're used to, change is frustrating and sometimes totally unnecessary.

Change without further qualifier implies doing something equivalent or better by different means or with a different look. What people are observing is a specific kind of change: regression, where the experience of appearance or result of action are worsened or no longer an option at all. It's a trend I've noticed in Apple since the move to unibody.