Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the kernel, not the OS.
OK, you got me. It's GNU/Linux.
Actually its Android/Linux
A lot of parts are non-GNU. Specially the proprietary drivers.
Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
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Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
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What's wrong with a variety of OSs?
Nothing wrong. It's just not hype-worthy because it doesn't contain the words Apple/Chrome/iOS. So most people will just ignore this.
They're not trying to sell a brand, though -- I believe the starting goal is to get this on low end commodity phones in South America. (Notice how everything in the original link is also available in Portuguese?) To that end they already have deals with carriers there.
Since Mozilla actually has the health of the web as their main mission, they have a role catering to markets that others will neglect.
Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
OK, you got me. It's GNU/Linux.
Actually its Android/Linux A lot of parts are non-GNU. Specially the proprietary drivers.
Oh! Actually I had no idea it was based on Android, which actually makes a lot more sense for phones than the regular GNU userland. Thanks!
Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
OK, you got me. It's GNU/Linux.
Actually its Android/Linux A lot of parts are non-GNU. Specially the proprietary drivers.
There's a brief description on wikipedia; it's called "Gonk".
Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
#25Sorry for the OT, but I always get a certificate error when visiting that domain. Am I the only one? http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=hacks.mo... Says the cert is ok, but my firefox complains: hacks.mozilla.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for tbpl.mozilla.org (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) Maybe there is something wrong with my network.
You may have TLS 1.0 disabled (Tools > Options > Advanced > Encryption > TLS 1.0). Make sure both of those checkboxes (SSL 3.0 and TLS 1.0) are checked.
That was it. Thank you.
Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
#26Mozilla nurtured the web with Firefox. This is yet another great project for the Mobile ecosystem. I always wished for myself and for the larger web community a 'Rock solid web based Open' Mobile Platform. And it is happening fast. All such advancements are only possible today, as we have faster Javascript engines, can leverage Cloud services, access to cheaper hardware and much faster Internet Penetration and adopti…
Seriously, I don't know why exactly but this stuff makes me feel like a dirty utopian hippie despite all the steely-eyed "realist" devil's advocate posturing people can summon.
I only wish FirefoxOS devices were around to have been considered for our retarded "give every child a tablet" program that's underway in Turkey, especially given the rumors that Mozilla is shooting for the cheap end of the market. As expected, the tablets for the program are being marketed as a toy.
Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
#27Sorry for the OT, but I always get a certificate error when visiting that domain. Am I the only one? http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=hacks.mo... Says the cert is ok, but my firefox complains: hacks.mozilla.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for tbpl.mozilla.org (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) Maybe there is something wrong with my network.
I see you commented on a fix already, but here's some background...
This is due to TLS SNI, which allows different certs to be returned based on the hostname requested. SNI is supported by all major browsers on all major platforms, with 1 significant exception: WinXP+IE does not support SNI (WinXP+Firefox/Opera/Chrome are all fine for many versions, WinVista/7+IE are both fine). I think certain (older) Android platforms have a problem with this too.
SNI is really awesome because the web hosting company doesn't have to allocate separate IP addresses for multiple sites to have proper SSL support. It makes HTTPS hosting simpler and cheaper. The only significant downside is issues like this, where a user's browser doesn't support it... hence over time, issues like this should shrink.
If you're still on WinXP+IE, you're likely to start running into more and more problems in the next couple years (and not just due to SNI).
Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
#28Sorry for the OT, but I always get a certificate error when visiting that domain. Am I the only one? http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=hacks.mo... Says the cert is ok, but my firefox complains: hacks.mozilla.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for tbpl.mozilla.org (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) Maybe there is something wrong with my network.
Update your browser - happens to me in IE8, but not Chrome 22. Certification verification is done by the browser, and I believe they store acceptable CA signers somehow, which is probably out dated. Edit: Don't quote me, been a while since studying site certificates.
This advisory seems to clear up Internet Explorer's reluctance: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2643584
Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Update your browser - happens to me in IE8, but not Chrome 22. Certification verification is done by the browser, and I believe they store acceptable CA signers somehow, which is probably out dated. Edit: Don't quote me, been a while since studying site certificates.
I have the latest ff: 16.0.2. I even tried $ openssl s_client -connect hacks.mozilla.org:443 from a linode vm: CONNECTED(00000003) --- Certificate chain 0 s:/serialNumber=I1oZ-yurbFWiPu/xP8HIzW3f9mApQvMv/C=US/ST=California/L=Mountain View/O=Mozilla Corporation/OU=IT/CN=tbpl.mozilla.org i:/C=US/O=GeoTrust, Inc./CN=GeoTrust SSL CA 1 s:/C=US/O=GeoTrust, Inc./CN=GeoTrust SSL CA i:/C=US/O=GeoTrust Inc./CN=GeoTrust Global…
s_client doesn't support SNI, so this is expected behavior. The client (s_client) doesn't know how to tell the server what hostname it's requesting during the handshake... so the server returns the default one. After the handshake completes, normal HTTP semantics kick in and the client/server have no problems... but by then it's too late, and the client has already negotiated based on the wrong cert.
Re: Firefox OS – video presentations and slides on the OS, WebAPIs
#30Sorry for the OT, but I always get a certificate error when visiting that domain. Am I the only one? http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=hacks.mo... Says the cert is ok, but my firefox complains: hacks.mozilla.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for tbpl.mozilla.org (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) Maybe there is something wrong with my network.
Update your browser - happens to me in IE8, but not Chrome 22. Certification verification is done by the browser, and I believe they store acceptable CA signers somehow, which is probably out dated. Edit: Don't quote me, been a while since studying site certificates.
Wild guess... are you on WinXP?
WinXP + any version of IE does not support TLS SNI... even though it does support TLSv1.0, it doesn't support the SNI extension. Supported in Vista and 7, though.
Chrome, Firefox, and Opera (on any platform) all support TLSv1.0, with or without SNI.