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Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by edgarvaldes »

margalabargala wrote: post #14
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

The local farmers came with 1000l+ tanks for diesel, foreigners with multiple gas cans, etc., and the local logistics couldn't handle the pressure.

Foreigners were coming to Slovenia just to buy gas? In such quantities that it strained infrastructure? That definitely sounds like something that happened. As if "multiple gas cans" wouldn't still be well under the 50 liter/day limit.

No numbers provided, but from TFA:

>In Slovenia, this has resulted in so-called "fuel tourism", as drivers from neighbouring countries, particularly Austria, take advantage of the lower, regulated prices here.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by Detrytus »

margalabargala wrote: post #14
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

The local farmers came with 1000l+ tanks for diesel, foreigners with multiple gas cans, etc., and the local logistics couldn't handle the pressure.

Foreigners were coming to Slovenia just to buy gas? In such quantities that it strained infrastructure? That definitely sounds like something that happened. As if "multiple gas cans" wouldn't still be well under the 50 liter/day limit.

Well, Slovenia is a small country and has land borders with many others. Imagine that gas in New Jersey was $1 per gallon cheaper than in New York and Pennsylvania. I guess a lot of people would drive to NJ gas stations.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by haunter »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #19
drnick1 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Electric cars aren't cheap, and electricity prices are very high in Europe.

BYD EVs are affordable. Electricity will get cheaper with more renewables, oil will not.

Define affordable. A €40k Seal is anything but affordable. Eastern Europe (and I don't put Slovenia in this case here, they are much closer to Western Europe in every sense) will not mass change to EVs suddenly when everyone is shopping for 10 years old diesels from Western Europe for maximum €10k

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

margalabargala wrote: post #14
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

The local farmers came with 1000l+ tanks for diesel, foreigners with multiple gas cans, etc., and the local logistics couldn't handle the pressure.

Foreigners were coming to Slovenia just to buy gas? In such quantities that it strained infrastructure? That definitely sounds like something that happened. As if "multiple gas cans" wouldn't still be well under the 50 liter/day limit.

Yes, mostly italians and austrians

https://svet24.si/novice/slovenija/gorivo-dizel-bencinski-se...

https://sobotainfo.com/novica/lokalno/foto-video-neverjetna-...

https://sobotainfo.com/novica/globalno/video-avstrijci-k-nam...

https://www.prlekija-on.net/lokalno/40253/ponekod-zmanjkalo-...

And it's not the first time:

https://vecer.com/slovenija/izredne-razmere-zaradi-navala-na...

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by toomuchtodo »

haunter wrote: post #23
toomuchtodo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BYD EVs are affordable. Electricity will get cheaper with more renewables, oil will not.

Define affordable. A €40k Seal is anything but affordable. Eastern Europe (and I don't put Slovenia in this case here, they are much closer to Western Europe in every sense) will not mass change to EVs suddenly when everyone is shopping for 10 years old diesels from Western Europe for maximum €10k

> Define affordable.

Cheaper than the total cost of ownership of a combustion vehicle at $150-$200/barrel for prolonged periods of time.

Are We Approaching an Unprecedented Energy Crisis? - https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-energy/iran-war-... - March 26th, 2026

France confirms oil crisis, says 30-40 percent of Gulf energy infrastructure destroyed - https://www.france24.com/en/france-confirms-oil-crisis-says-... - March 25th, 2026

Even the best-case scenario for energy markets is disastrous - https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2026/03/22/e... | https://archive.today/5OhRI - March 22nd, 2026

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by zejn »

drnick1 wrote: post #15
mlinhares wrote: post #2

Hope that gets Europe to invest in renewables and leave oil behind.

Electric cars aren't cheap, and electricity prices are very high in Europe.

Not true. No new car is cheap, and electricity is now cheaper than gas or diesel.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

hirako2000 wrote: post #9
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

The local farmers came with 1000l+ tanks for diesel, foreigners with multiple gas cans, etc., and the local logistics couldn't handle the pressure.

Could also be that they didn't have sufficient reserve and would rather blame hijackers?

They're blaming the lack of cisterns to transport gas from storage to individual gas stations, because everyone went to get gas, and some hoarded a lot of it

example: https://www.zurnal24.si/slovenija/bralec-v-soku-mirne-vesti-...

I mean... we also have a huge factory making toilet paper here, and we had the same toilet paper crisis during covid... everyone suddenly needed 10 packs of toilet paper for some reason.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by trinix912 »

gpm wrote: post #18

So... why is fuel 25% cheaper in Slovenia than in the neighbouring country while Solvenia is simultaneously having issues with running out of fuel? Seems like the obvious solution is to raise prices so people stop driving to your country (wasting fuel, ironically) to take your cheap fuel instead of just paying for the fuel in their own country. More than that it's a solution the free market would actually find on its…

We can barely afford it at the current price. The solution would be charging foreign transit the non-regulated price but that would be considered discriminatory.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by SirHumphrey »

gpm wrote: post #18

So... why is fuel 25% cheaper in Slovenia than in the neighbouring country while Solvenia is simultaneously having issues with running out of fuel? Seems like the obvious solution is to raise prices so people stop driving to your country (wasting fuel, ironically) to take your cheap fuel instead of just paying for the fuel in their own country. More than that it's a solution the free market would actually find on its…

There was an election recently and it’s possible there will soon be another… That’s why the fuel is so cheap.

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Post by iammjm »

margalabargala wrote: post #14
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

The local farmers came with 1000l+ tanks for diesel, foreigners with multiple gas cans, etc., and the local logistics couldn't handle the pressure.

Foreigners were coming to Slovenia just to buy gas? In such quantities that it strained infrastructure? That definitely sounds like something that happened. As if "multiple gas cans" wouldn't still be well under the 50 liter/day limit.

Slovenia is a small country with 2 million people, bordering countries with a total of over 82 million people. The neighbors are also relatively rich countries, such as Austria and Italy
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